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Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction

Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 07/28/2009 06:28 AM | Reply #21 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/28/2009
Location: Mn

I agree its frustrating to get to the border and find that you are not allowed in because of a past minor consumption or DUI.  Who made the decision to drink and get caught in the first place?  I tell my children all the time who are all over 20 now, getting a DUI or a minor consumption carries a heavy consequence not only in the U.S. but also Canada.  Its hard for me to believe that people are that stupid that they don't think their drinking carries no consequences.  I don't feel sorry for anyone who can't get into canada they brought it upon themselves.  I was born and raised in Ontario Canada and now living in Minnesota, I have always abided by laws from both countries how hard is that?

Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 07/28/2009 07:28 AM | Reply #22 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/25/2008
Location: ND
I live on the border and crossed the borders in mn, and n.d. 25 weekends a year for 15 years, and believe me that 1 old dui will get you denied access to canada. What ever you do answer all questions honestly. From what i can tell they dont allways run a background check on everybody crossing. but if they do and you are lying watch out you are breaking the law. My best advice is get a  passport or nexus card, it makes border crossing 100% easier. (passport is required i believe now). I know alot of people that have tried paying the fees to canada to clear there record and were denied. stupid law but it is a law.  I have lots of storys of bad border crossing from getting pulled into secondary for being the only one in the vehical and haveing 3 lawn chairs and camo rain gear to getting secondaried for pulling up and my camper door popped open and i didnt know it.. most border officials are good people but there job wouldnt be easy.
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 07/28/2009 11:00 AM | Reply #23 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/03/2003
Location: ND
Here is the deal with the Rehabilitation.  I applied for it and was approved 2 years ago so I know it works, it's just kind of a pain in the a. 
The lady named in the article- Lucy Perillo works for border crossing services in Winnepeg, if you contact them they will get you started with the right paper work to start filling out for rehabilitation.  The rehab is different from the temp permit, if you apply and are approved for rehab it is for life.
You need to go through a ton of paperwork, including getting court records, police records, reference letters and a few other things.  It takes a couple months to get everything together.  Once you have everything together you go to the border crossing and meet with them.  (I think it has to be a main crossing as well- Pembina) The head guy there reviews all your paperwork and prints and signs something that they stapled into the back of my passport stating I am rehabilitated and they cannot keep me from crossing into Canada because of my prior DUI conviction.  Since I have gotten that, they look at it and I have no problems getting into Canada.
A couple of catches-  the whole process cost me about 800 bucks and you can't apply for rehabilitation until your DUI is 6 years old.
No matter what stories you hear, this is the only way to be able to cross the border without having to lie or to worry about not getting in.


Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 07/28/2009 11:25 AM | Reply #24 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Remm,yup,its all about the mighty dollar isn't it?,met some fine folks over the years up there,but everytime you turn around they (the ministry) stick it to us,have'nt been back up in years,since the "gun fee's" for hunters,ammo restrictions,slots,license increase's,ding'd on bringing bait in and produce...etc etc..Now Ontario has a NR sportsman license,you will now need two licenses.

Long story short,keep your money here in the states,support our folks here,times are tough and we sportsmen/women can help.
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Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 07/28/2009 12:12 PM | Reply #25 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/21/2005
Location: ND
A few years ago a friend and his dad were going fishing and at the border my friend was inside the building and one of the other border patrol ask the dad to open the trunk(this guy is almost deaf) and the dad said no, the agent asked again and the dad said no my friend looked out and saw a problem so he went out and ask what the problem was and the agent said again to open the trunk and the dad said no .So his son yelled open the trunk and he did and then the dad asked "why did the guy ask me 3 times if I was drunk.". I am sure the border agent will never forget that time.

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Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 09/29/2009 3:50 PM | Reply #26 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/25/2006
Location: WI

i will share my experience with you now.i received a dui in 1981 also 2000.i have been through the border in emerson manitoba 30 times since i was 15 yrs old.i am 46 now.i live in wisconsin.this year we all got passports,4 of us.we were staying in drayton north dakota fishing.went to canada to see my grampas gravestone in emerson.got to border and she gives me a slip and tells us to go inside.we sit inside for about a half hour and then she calls my name.thinking its my truck thats why they called my name.well i go up to talk to her and she says you have a conviction from 1981.i said ah i guess but i really couldnt remember at the moment what it was.i said i was 17 and she got pissed and said no you were 18.i said i stole gas or something.she said you would be able to enter because the fine wasnt or 500.00 dollars.then they checked my truck after we were let out of building.another 25 minutes of bull crap.now why didnt they find my owi from 10 yrs ago.i was so pissed when they brought up a conviction from 28 yrs ago.so i called the border and talked with a superintendent when i got back.explained my suituation and asked why you didnt find my dui from 10 yrs ago.he said sometimes if the citation wasnt registerd with the national data base they might not see it.so it is entirely up to you if you want to try and enter canada.i also have dual citizenship,my parents are both canadain.i usually never bring this fact up went i enter canada.so i explaned that to the superintendent and he said if i would have told them i was also a canadian citizen it wouldnt matter about my convictions.i have a citizenship card from when i was 17 yrs old.next time i go there next year they can kiss my azz.

Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 09/29/2009 5:33 PM | Reply #27 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/09/2004
Location: ND
 
pinklady01 Said:

I agree its frustrating to get to the border and find that you are not allowed in because of a past minor consumption or DUI.  Who made the decision to drink and get caught in the first place?  I tell my children all the time who are all over 20 now, getting a DUI or a minor consumption carries a heavy consequence not only in the U.S. but also Canada.  Its hard for me to believe that people are that stupid that they don't think their drinking carries no consequences.  I don't feel sorry for anyone who can't get into canada they brought it upon themselves.  I was born and raised in Ontario Canada and now living in Minnesota, I have always abided by laws from both countries how hard is that?

I get annoyed with these "holier-than-thou" comments. I'm sure you've never done anything wrong before in your life pinklady so thanks for the lecture. Enjoy Minnesota

J
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 4:06 PM | Reply #28 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/05/2010
Location: nj
 I have one DWI conviction from 1997.  I have since given up drinking totally and dont drive.  I have since entered canada from the US 2 times without a problem. I entered by amtrak. But the last time they once again never noticed my record.  But customs inspector asked me about a hundred questions.  He asked me if I had ever been brought before a judge.  I said No.  He never went further than that.  I have read that I can be arrested for lying to a customs official.

I AM NOW TELLING ALL AMERICANS NOT TO GO TO CANADA BECAUSE OF THIS.  IT IS PREVENTING ME FROM EVER GOING AGAIN BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO GIVE MY MONEY TO A COUNTRY THAT IS BEING UNREASONABLE.  I dont want to get arrested for lying so I will not go to Canada ever again.  Keep in mind, I dont drink or drive an automobile.
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 6:41 PM | Reply #29 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2003
Location: ND

It's not that tough,  don't drink and drive.  By no means do I claim to be holier than thou,  maybe just smart enough to not drink and drive.  It's not rocket science.

Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 7:17 PM | Reply #30 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/26/2008
Location: ND
thats why all should go to alaska. still the US and no BS.  better fishing too
cant drink all day unless you start in the morning.
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GET SOME!!!!!
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 7:25 PM | Reply #31 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2007
Location: ND
And the money stays in our country!
beminoid31 Said:
thats why all should go to alaska. still the US and no BS.  better fishing too


Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 7:38 PM | Reply #32 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 9:37 PM | Reply #33 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/28/2001
Location: ND
iluvswnd took the words right out of my mouth. For every person out there that drinks (casually) or any other form, i would bet that 99.9% have been behind the wheel while over the legal limit at one time or another.  If not you are either a saint or a liar.

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Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/05/2010 9:41 PM | Reply #34 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/25/2008
Location: ND
At .08 it doesnt take much. when i was alot younger drinking and drieing was the norm, nobody thought about it.
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 07:54 AM | Reply #35 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/05/2010
Location: nj
True , the truth will set you free. Free to go back to the United States.  You will have just wasted your time and money traveling and will lose your vacation.  The did a study and said that the average person lies about 5 times everyday.  Thats everybody, Politicians, customs people, and ordinary citizens.  If they are going to arrest you for something so stupid as for having a DUI conviction that may be 30 years old, Then you are well within your rights to lie to anybody.

The fact that they are not willing to recognize a statue of limitiations on this offense is antagonistic in an of itself.  Its not logical.  The offense may be 30 years old and its in another country.  THEY DESERVE TO BE LIED TO.

I have one DUI from 13 years ago,  I have since crossed the canadian border twice since then.  Once 6 years ago and the other last year.  6 years ago I was never asked if I had a DUI and they let me in.  They never spotted it on my record.  Last year they did ask if I had ever been brought before a judge and I lied.  I said no.  They let me in . If you ask a stupid question you get a stupid or incorrect answer.

I have actually been sober 13 years since my DUI, not having even one sip of alcohol, and I have not owned a car in 13  years.  I am inadmisable to Canada.  The whole law is idiotic.  

After further studying the law and finding out that I can be arrested for lying and go to jail for lying if they ask me if I have ever been arrested I will probably never go to canada again.  I will stay in the United states.  Why give the idiots my money.  Dont get me wrong, I love Montreal and Quebec and the Canadian people are very nice but the 
Canadian governement are hippocrits.

In New Jersey, DUI is a traffic offense.  It is not even a misdemeanor.  In Canada its a FELONY.  If Canada is so bent on punishing Drunk Drivers raise the drinking age from 18 to 21.  That would be a start.  You are encouraging drinking among the youth and then punishing them with a felony.

Its almost entrapement. Dont induce someone to do something only to punish them later.  Dont ask someone at the border if they have ever been arrested. You should have the information at the border. You are tempting them to lie. 

I AM ADVISING ALL AMERICANS RIGHT NOW NOT TO TRAVEL TO CANADA UNTIL THIS ABSURD LAW IS LIFTED.  (Have the law but have a statue of limitations on the violation)  I am a recovering alcoholic who has not had a sip of alcohol in 13 years and should not be punished for something I did so long ago.

I WILL KEEP MY DEFLATED US DOLLAR IN THE UNITED STATES. I WOULD HAVE GONE TO CANADA THIS JANUARY BUT WILL NOT.  AGAIN, AMERICANS DONT GO TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!


Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 2:41 PM | Reply #36 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
Too funny, JIMJAKEBOB writes "They deserve to be lied to". That's too funny right there!  I also heard that if they catch you lying in Canada they make you stay.
 
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 4:08 PM | Reply #37 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Keeping money spending tourists out of the country on the basis of a single 10 or 20 year old DUI is a bit silly, IMO!   Repeated DUI's and other felonies might warrant this.  Everyone affected should e-mail the powers that be and tell them why you think this overkill and would otherwise like to go to Canada and spend some bucks!    If enough people complain, usually the squeaky wheel gets........
With the Olympics coming up in Vancouver, I wonder how many people from all over the world might get turned back, including some of the athletes themselves? Some European countries have much tougher  DUI laws than Canada.  It would be funny if a lot of the ahtletes got turned back!   
Riverview and others are right - in the good old days a lot of us, perhaps most of us, should have earned a DUI or three, but didn't because of pure unadulterated luck!   
A bit off the topic but lots of agencies are taking long hard looks at previous DUI's.   I had a buddy have to jump through a whole bunch of hoops before he could even get a class 3 physical for flying based on a POT charge from the mid 70's!      A lot of employers find this out while screening job applicants, too.    A friend recently told me there is even a ND govt website  where you can check DUI's and other stuff on anyone.    He was going to send it to me, but hasn't yet!  
Best advice is to keep our noses clean and have a DD or pay a cab and all that.   OK GUYS!  DO AS I SAY - not as I did..... 
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 4:10 PM | Reply #38 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
BTW, if any of you are stopped for drinking up in Canada, the mounties will never write you up if you tell them that by trying to be a good tourist  you were just doing was what the sign said!   "DRINK CANADA DRY'
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 4:24 PM | Reply #39 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2002
Location: ND
Bobkat,
Whether you or I think a DUI is a big deal is immaterial.  If Canada chooses to consider a DUI to be a felony and then refuses entry to foreign "felons" based on that, it's their country and we have the freedom to not go there.

They also have a dim view of sex offenders.  Anybody that ever got into an argument with their spouse or live-in and ended up talking to the police about it just might show up on the radar with that tag too.  I know somebody that this happened to and he was floored.  Simple domestic disturbance a few years before that got handled but it caused a problem at the Border.

I'm oneof those people that has said several times on threads that not telling the truth is dangerous at the Border.  I have a friend that is a Customs Agent on our side.  The power they have at the Crossing Station is almost absolute and there are some that will take great joy in ruining your day if you mess around with them.  All in the name of thoroughly doing their job.
Re: Entering Canada with years old DUI conviction
by on 01/07/2010 6:57 PM | Reply #40 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/05/2010
Location: nj
Farnorth,  I am not making a determinatiion as to whether Canada has the right to refuse anyone entry into their country.  They have the right to refuse anyone.  But it doesn't make sense that a DUI 30 years old and which you have totally paid your debt to society should be used against you when crossing the border.  If Canada is so strict about Drunk Driving they should Raise the drinking age from 18 to 21.  that would be a start.  reduce the alchohol content of their beers like in the  United States .  Canadian beer on average is much stronger than american beer.

I was planning on going to Montreal this week, but after researching the facts, I have learned that I can be arrested for witholding my 13 year old DUI from the Customs Agent.

I lied last January and got away with it.  They are making two federal cases out of nothing.  Turning me into a convicted felon for a DUI 13 years ago, and now lying to a Customs official.  Now I can have two felonies in Canada.

I am a recovering Alchoholic and have not had a sip of Alchohol in 13 years.  I have not  even owned a car in 13 years.

I AM ADVISING ALL AMERICANS TO BOYCOTT CANADA UNTIL THEY REVISE THIS ABSURD LAW.  (Keep the law but have a statue of limitations on it)

The bottom line is I dont think the government of Canada really cares if they lose the American tourist.  If they are not going to welcome me and make it easy, I will never go to Canada again.  I dont want to be going on vacation and then end up in jail for lying to an agent.

And yes, If I am spending 12 hours on a train ride, its 20 below zero, and its 10 at night, of course I would lie to the customs agent.  Telling the truth will definitely send you back.  If you lie, like I did last year, their is a chance they may not catch it.

I WILL NOT GO TO CANADA UNTIL THIS ABSURD LAW IS REVISED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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