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Just keep in mind that when you are at Canadian Customs, you are no longer in the USA.  If you lie to the Customs officer, you are attempting to enter the Country illegally.  If they catch you in the lie, you might get scolded.  OR, depending on the mood of the Officer and the day, you might get cuffed and thrown in the nearest jail to await the local magistrate.  Do you really want to take that chance?

In rural areas, the next chance to answer to a judge might be a week.

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Hi Farnworth,

I have crossed the border 10 times and only one time did they ask me if i ever have been arrested.  I just got back from Montreal and they never asked me if I had ever been arrested this time.  They now allow one DUI for one visit only.  If they dont ask, I did not lie.

What is your opinion on my jaywalking ticket.  If i live near montreal i would fight it.

If i dont pay it, its a civil judgement.  Would that impede my ablitly to go to Canada in the future.  The cop should never have given me that ticket. I was -30C dark and he said i entered intersection when it was yellow.  I said my right foot was on the ground when it was green.  

What do u think  the ramifications of not paying this jaywalking ticket will be.  I have always paid all my tickets but no fucking way will this ever be paid.  

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On Beavis & Butthead they found an ant that was jaywalking and they burned it with a magnifying glass as punishment. I would just pay the ticket and be glad you're not getting burned alive instead.

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Hi Farnworth,

I have crossed the border 10 times and only one time did they ask me if i ever have been arrested.  I just got back from Montreal and they never asked me if I had ever been arrested this time.  They now allow one DUI for one visit only.  If they dont ask, I did not lie.

What is your opinion on my jaywalking ticket.  If i live near montreal i would fight it.

If i dont pay it, its a civil judgement.  Would that impede my ablitly to go to Canada in the future.  The cop should never have given me that ticket. I was -30C dark and he said i entered intersection when it was yellow.  I said my right foot was on the ground when it was green.  

What do u think  the ramifications of not paying this jaywalking ticket will be.  I have always paid all my tickets but no fucking way will this ever be paid.  

Was that addressed to me?  If so, what's your point?  This is about DUI not Jaywalking.

Simple rule:  Don't lie at Customs.  Not too hard to understand.

Canada considers DUI to be a felony.  You have no idea what is showing up on their screens because you have no idea what Homeland Security shares with Canadian Customs and vice versa.

I guaranty you that if you tell American Customs a lie and get caught, they will ruin your day.  Why would the Canadians be any different?  I don't know any Law Enforcement Officers who enjoy getting lied to.  Mess with them at your own risk.

If you are wondering about something like a Jaywalking ticket, the answer is that you never know how it might affect you.  If you get into a situation where they run you through the system and you show up with the equivalent of a Bench Warrant, you could easily end up sitting in jail for spitting on the sidewalk.  No different than in the USA. 

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 Farnworth I saw u were online that is why i addressed this to u.

I am 53, law abiding citizen and have always paid my tickets that i have recieved.

I get irked and upset when i see what i thought were two free countries, the USA and Canada looking for petty reasons to restrict entry.

About 25 years ago after the free trade agreement was signed, there was talk of elimintating border controls at the us/canadian border.

I know this is about dui, but jaywalking ticket brings up the same exact issues as any citation issued.

These laws are draconian and give the US and canadian governermnet the power to limit the travel of a "free people"  I

Their is no fucking way i will pay this jay waliking ticket if i am convicted, and will not be able to go to montreal to fight it.

I will possibly no longer go back to canada. 

By the way,  DUI is New jersey is traffic offense not criminal..  That is why it does not show up on federal crime computer. I spoke with a lawyer about that at the consulate.

out of ten trips to canada since my dui, they only asked me once if i have ever been arrested.  I said no..  My last trip they never asked so i did not lie.


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Wow how times have changed,back in the70,s - 80's,would cross the border with a couple of questions from the border guard,no ID checks,come back same thing!!Cant leave the country because you have a DUI but on the southern border you could just walk across!!It just makes you want to stop paying taxes and let the government take care of you

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I don't think DUI convictions are minor.  There might even be some places in the World where they put you in an actual Prison for a very long time for driving drunk.

Canada looks at DUI as a serious offense.  They consider people who do this to be criminals.

Question:  Should the US let criminals into this Country?

If your answer is no, then you see why Canada might deny you entrance to their country if you've been convicted of DUI.

When it comes to "minor" offenses, you can choose to not defend yourself in court and not pay the fine.  In the US, the judge then issues a "Bench Warrant" and you could get a nasty surprise if you get stopped for some minor offense.

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Murdock,

Times have changed.  Farnworth comment that DUI is a crime is certainly true.  But once you paid your debt to the society  after it it was committed how long should another country hold this against u.  

The Canadian tourist industry complained that thousands of people and millions of dollars were being lost by the canadians because americans were being turned back at the border for past crimes no matter how long ago.

The whores and prostititutes that apparently the Canadian Bureau crats are, bowed to this pressure and as of March 12, 2012 you can NOW ENTER CANADA WITH ONE DUI FOR ONE VISIT.  Once they loose even more money and more complaints it will then be two LOL LOL  fuck them its not even funny.

I Guess the goverenment realized this is not about public saftey but about money.

I am 53, and am grateful that i experienced the utlimate in freedom in america.  America itself has become more of a police state than canada since 9/11.  MY beef is with the USA as well as canada.  Its the system.

Farnorth, i suggest  you look up the word "Carpet bagging"  It is digging up past dirt and holding it against someone. I dont think a DUI from 35 years ago should make someone inadmissable to a country.  with the way the law is now.  It is.

As soon as the Canadian dollar gets even stronger, less tourist will go their and they will relax these draconian inadmissality laws forever.  Money talks bullshit walks.  Their percieved public saftey will go out the door.

I just got back from 10 marvelous days in montreal if you exclude my jaywalking ticket on my second to last day, and have decided maybe it is time to just kick back and stay in the USA and when the dollar gets stronger go to europe as i have been their 7 times already and love it but i have not been in the last 11 years.

ONE DAY THE WORLD WILL BE RATIONAL, SANE AND FREE TO TRAVEL.

but it will probably not be in my lifetime.
 

  

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Just pay the ticket.

$41 dollars when all of  Montreal is jaywalking and this guy gives the one american in Montreal in -30C the ticket.  Even if i was jaywalking their were no cars around and my choice was frostibite or cross the street.  I will let canada send me letter which will cost them money.  i probably will not pay the ticket.  I may be exonerated, because on the back of the ticket their is an explanation of not guilty plea.

So i have not been convicted yet, but i will not spend $2000 to go to Montreal to fight this ticket.  I will simply not go back to canada.  Between this and my 16 year old DUI, they dont deserve my money.  I go up their almost every winter and spend about $1500 of which 15% goes to their taxes.  Who will loose..  They will but they dont care because they dont have any american tourist anyway do to the passport requirments and strong canadian dollar.  It is very expensive  up their, especially for food and clothes. 

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Just pay the ticket.

$41 dollars when all of  Montreal is jaywalking and this guy gives the one american in Montreal in -30C the ticket.  Even if i was jaywalking their were no cars around and my choice was frostibite or cross the street.  I will let canada send me letter which will cost them money.  i probably will not pay the ticket.  I may be exonerated, because on the back of the ticket their is an explanation of not guilty plea.

So i have not been convicted yet, but i will not spend $2000 to go to Montreal to fight this ticket.  I will simply not go back to canada.  Between this and my 16 year old DUI, they dont deserve my money.  I go up their almost every winter and spend about $1500 of which 15% goes to their taxes.  Who will loose..  They will but they dont care because they dont have any american tourist anyway do to the passport requirments and strong canadian dollar.  It is very expensive  up their, especially for food and clothes. 

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Just pay the ticket.

$41 dollars when all of  Montreal is jaywalking and this guy gives the one american in Montreal in -30C the ticket.  Even if i was jaywalking their were no cars around and my choice was frostibite or cross the street.  I will let canada send me letter which will cost them money.  i probably will not pay the ticket.  I may be exonerated, because on the back of the ticket their is an explanation of not guilty plea.

So i have not been convicted yet, but i will not spend $2000 to go to Montreal to fight this ticket.  I will simply not go back to canada.  Between this and my 16 year old DUI, they dont deserve my money.  I go up their almost every winter and spend about $1500 of which 15% goes to their taxes.  Who will loose..  They will but they dont care because they dont have any american tourist anyway do to the passport requirments and strong canadian dollar.  It is very expensive  up their, especially for food and clothes. 

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Just pay the ticket.

$41 dollars when all of  Montreal is jaywalking and this guy gives the one american in Montreal in -30C the ticket.  Even if i was jaywalking their were no cars around and my choice was frostibite or cross the street.  I will let canada send me letter which will cost them money.  i probably will not pay the ticket.  I may be exonerated, because on the back of the ticket their is an explanation of not guilty plea.

So i have not been convicted yet, but i will not spend $2000 to go to Montreal to fight this ticket.  I will simply not go back to canada.  Between this and my 16 year old DUI, they dont deserve my money.  I go up their almost every winter and spend about $1500 of which 15% goes to their taxes.  Who will loose..  They will but they dont care because they dont have any american tourist anyway do to the passport requirments and strong canadian dollar.  It is very expensive  up their, especially for food and clothes. 

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JHC, what a fricken baby.  If you don't like how the Canadians run their Country don't go there.  It's a heck of a lot cheaper to stay here anyway.

I believe the DUI's they have been most concerned with are the ones less than 5 years old.  Like any country, they try to weed out the "undesireables" and recent DUI convictions make somebody an "undesireable".  I'm sorry if that offends somebody but those are the facts.

With regard to the supposed "new" rule about one time entry, does it have a fee?  For quite some time, they have offered the one time entry for a fee of something like $200.  They have also always had the process of allowing you to "rehabilitate" your record by sending paperwork to Ottawa along with a $200 fee.

The ONE thing I would never suggest to anybody is to be "untruthful" at the Border.  You are in limbo there.  You're technically in Canada but haven't been admitted yet.  That means you are subject to THEIR laws and not ours.  It's a bad place to be making waves.

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 Farnorth, The only thing that you have written that I agree with is that it is cheaper to stay in  the USA than go to Canada.  Food and clothes are easily 1/3 or more higher in Montreal than in New york city.  I thought New york was expensive.  Go to Montreal and u will see.  I did not see one american in my 10 days in Montreal this trip.  I just got back.

The passport requirement, strong Canadian dollar, and to many questions and conditions for crossing the border are keeping americans home.  Also the -35C without the wind is keeping people away.

They now allow americans with one DUI to cross with no fee for one trip.  Google and you will see.  The people who make their living in Canada off tourists complained because millions of dollars were being lost do to sent back tourists.

As far as the jaywalking ticket, google that and you will see only a very small percentage of pedestrian accidents involving motor vehicles involve jaywalking.  The vast majority involve careless or wreckless driving.  The Montreal police wrote 44,000 tickets for jaywalking this summer alone.  Farnorth, its about MONEY, not public saftey.
When I crossed the street is was -22F without the wind and -45F with the wind. My choice was to cross the street with no cars around or get frostbite.  The stupid cop never go out of his car when he wrote the ticket as he waved me over.  The stupid cop also said i entered the intersection when the light was yellow.  It was nightime and he was on the other side of the street. That leaves open the question whether my right foot hit the pavement when the light was green.  

Last week before I left Montreal I went to the municipal court with the ticket and pleaded not guilty.  I wrote my explanation and told the court clerk you "you have maybe 10 american tourist in Montreal now and if you dont dismiss this I will never come back to Canada.  I will tell 10 people about this and you wont have any american tourist in montreal"  She took the ticket and stamped it in as recieved. It will take about 1 or two months to see if i am convicted.  My research shows the only way to get this ticket dismissed is to show up in court in Montreal to fight the ticket. That will cost me thousands of dollars to go up their.

If i dont pay the ticket i have found out a warrant will be issued for my arrest in all of Canada.  Between my 16 year old DUI, this jay walking ticket, subzero tempetures, extremely expensive prices in montreal, and to many questions at the border, maybe its time to stay home in USA.  Over my life I have been to toronto, halifax and montreal and quebec city.  I have been to montreal and quebec city about 12 times .  toronto and halifax only once. I really love going up to french canada. Its like going to europe without getting on a plane.  but what were free countries are limiting my ablility to enjoy it anymore.  

I am a 53 year old law abiding citizen of the USA. If a 16 year old DUI and a $41 bullshit jaywalking ticket that if i am convicted will probably go upaid will result in my getting either arrested for or sent back at the border, I will put my 15 trips to canada and live off the memories.  I dont want to give 15.2 % of my purchases to pay for there health insurance when i have non myslelf.  Who looses.  The canadian governement but they dont care because they have no american tourist now anyway.  At least not in the winter.

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jimjakebob Said:
 Farnorth, The only thing that you have written that I agree with is that it is cheaper to stay in  the USA than go to Canada.  Food and clothes are easily 1/3 or more higher in Montreal than in New york city.  I thought New york was expensive.  Go to Montreal and u will see.  I did not see one american in my 10 days in Montreal this trip.  I just got back.

The passport requirement, strong Canadian dollar, and to many questions and conditions for crossing the border are keeping americans home.  Also the -35C without the wind is keeping people away.

They now allow americans with one DUI to cross with no fee for one trip.  Google and you will see.  The people who make their living in Canada off tourists complained because millions of dollars were being lost do to sent back tourists.

As far as the jaywalking ticket, google that and you will see only a very small percentage of pedestrian accidents involving motor vehicles involve jaywalking.  The vast majority involve careless or wreckless driving.  The Montreal police wrote 44,000 tickets for jaywalking this summer alone.  Farnorth, its about MONEY, not public saftey.
When I crossed the street is was -22F without the wind and -45F with the wind. My choice was to cross the street with no cars around or get frostbite.  The stupid cop never go out of his car when he wrote the ticket as he waved me over.  The stupid cop also said i entered the intersection when the light was yellow.  It was nightime and he was on the other side of the street. That leaves open the question whether my right foot hit the pavement when the light was green.  

Last week before I left Montreal I went to the municipal court with the ticket and pleaded not guilty.  I wrote my explanation and told the court clerk you "you have maybe 10 american tourist in Montreal now and if you dont dismiss this I will never come back to Canada.  I will tell 10 people about this and you wont have any american tourist in montreal"  She took the ticket and stamped it in as recieved. It will take about 1 or two months to see if i am convicted.  My research shows the only way to get this ticket dismissed is to show up in court in Montreal to fight the ticket. That will cost me thousands of dollars to go up their.

If i dont pay the ticket i have found out a warrant will be issued for my arrest in all of Canada.  Between my 16 year old DUI, this jay walking ticket, subzero tempetures, extremely expensive prices in montreal, and to many questions at the border, maybe its time to stay home in USA.  Over my life I have been to toronto, halifax and montreal and quebec city.  I have been to montreal and quebec city about 12 times .  toronto and halifax only once. I really love going up to french canada. Its like going to europe without getting on a plane.  but what were free countries are limiting my ablility to enjoy it anymore.  

I am a 53 year old law abiding citizen of the USA. If a 16 year old DUI and a $41 bullshit jaywalking ticket that if i am convicted will probably go upaid will result in my getting either arrested for or sent back at the border, I will put my 15 trips to canada and live off the memories.  I dont want to give 15.2 % of my purchases to pay for there health insurance when i have non myslelf.  Who looses.  The canadian governement but they dont care because they have no american tourist now anyway.  At least not in the winter.

do you know pauly d or the situation

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