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And the money stays in our country!

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thats why all should go to alaska. still the US and no BS.  better fishing too

 

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buy off the mounties with a case of molson, 1.75 of rye whiskey and a pack of smokes-- works every time

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iluvswnd took the words right out of my mouth. For every person out there that drinks (casually) or any other form, i would bet that 99.9% have been behind the wheel while over the legal limit at one time or another.  If not you are either a saint or a liar.

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At .08 it doesnt take much. when i was alot younger drinking and drieing was the norm, nobody thought about it.

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True , the truth will set you free. Free to go back to the United States.  You will have just wasted your time and money traveling and will lose your vacation.  The did a study and said that the average person lies about 5 times everyday.  Thats everybody, Politicians, customs people, and ordinary citizens.  If they are going to arrest you for something so stupid as for having a DUI conviction that may be 30 years old, Then you are well within your rights to lie to anybody.

The fact that they are not willing to recognize a statue of limitiations on this offense is antagonistic in an of itself.  Its not logical.  The offense may be 30 years old and its in another country.  THEY DESERVE TO BE LIED TO.

I have one DUI from 13 years ago,  I have since crossed the canadian border twice since then.  Once 6 years ago and the other last year.  6 years ago I was never asked if I had a DUI and they let me in.  They never spotted it on my record.  Last year they did ask if I had ever been brought before a judge and I lied.  I said no.  They let me in . If you ask a stupid question you get a stupid or incorrect answer.

I have actually been sober 13 years since my DUI, not having even one sip of alcohol, and I have not owned a car in 13  years.  I am inadmisable to Canada.  The whole law is idiotic.  

After further studying the law and finding out that I can be arrested for lying and go to jail for lying if they ask me if I have ever been arrested I will probably never go to canada again.  I will stay in the United states.  Why give the idiots my money.  Dont get me wrong, I love Montreal and Quebec and the Canadian people are very nice but the 
Canadian governement are hippocrits.

In New Jersey, DUI is a traffic offense.  It is not even a misdemeanor.  In Canada its a FELONY.  If Canada is so bent on punishing Drunk Drivers raise the drinking age from 18 to 21.  That would be a start.  You are encouraging drinking among the youth and then punishing them with a felony.

Its almost entrapement. Dont induce someone to do something only to punish them later.  Dont ask someone at the border if they have ever been arrested. You should have the information at the border. You are tempting them to lie. 

I AM ADVISING ALL AMERICANS RIGHT NOW NOT TO TRAVEL TO CANADA UNTIL THIS ABSURD LAW IS LIFTED.  (Have the law but have a statue of limitations on the violation)  I am a recovering alcoholic who has not had a sip of alcohol in 13 years and should not be punished for something I did so long ago.

I WILL KEEP MY DEFLATED US DOLLAR IN THE UNITED STATES. I WOULD HAVE GONE TO CANADA THIS JANUARY BUT WILL NOT.  AGAIN, AMERICANS DONT GO TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!


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Too funny, JIMJAKEBOB writes "They deserve to be lied to". That's too funny right there!  I also heard that if they catch you lying in Canada they make you stay.

 

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Keeping money spending tourists out of the country on the basis of a single 10 or 20 year old DUI is a bit silly, IMO!   Repeated DUI's and other felonies might warrant this.  Everyone affected should e-mail the powers that be and tell them why you think this overkill and would otherwise like to go to Canada and spend some bucks!    If enough people complain, usually the squeaky wheel gets........
With the Olympics coming up in Vancouver, I wonder how many people from all over the world might get turned back, including some of the athletes themselves? Some European countries have much tougher  DUI laws than Canada.  It would be funny if a lot of the ahtletes got turned back!   
Riverview and others are right - in the good old days a lot of us, perhaps most of us, should have earned a DUI or three, but didn't because of pure unadulterated luck!   
A bit off the topic but lots of agencies are taking long hard looks at previous DUI's.   I had a buddy have to jump through a whole bunch of hoops before he could even get a class 3 physical for flying based on a POT charge from the mid 70's!      A lot of employers find this out while screening job applicants, too.    A friend recently told me there is even a ND govt website  where you can check DUI's and other stuff on anyone.    He was going to send it to me, but hasn't yet!  
Best advice is to keep our noses clean and have a DD or pay a cab and all that.   OK GUYS!  DO AS I SAY - not as I did..... 

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BTW, if any of you are stopped for drinking up in Canada, the mounties will never write you up if you tell them that by trying to be a good tourist  you were just doing was what the sign said!   "DRINK CANADA DRY'

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Bobkat,
Whether you or I think a DUI is a big deal is immaterial.  If Canada chooses to consider a DUI to be a felony and then refuses entry to foreign "felons" based on that, it's their country and we have the freedom to not go there.

They also have a dim view of sex offenders.  Anybody that ever got into an argument with their spouse or live-in and ended up talking to the police about it just might show up on the radar with that tag too.  I know somebody that this happened to and he was floored.  Simple domestic disturbance a few years before that got handled but it caused a problem at the Border.

I'm oneof those people that has said several times on threads that not telling the truth is dangerous at the Border.  I have a friend that is a Customs Agent on our side.  The power they have at the Crossing Station is almost absolute and there are some that will take great joy in ruining your day if you mess around with them.  All in the name of thoroughly doing their job.

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Farnorth,  I am not making a determinatiion as to whether Canada has the right to refuse anyone entry into their country.  They have the right to refuse anyone.  But it doesn't make sense that a DUI 30 years old and which you have totally paid your debt to society should be used against you when crossing the border.  If Canada is so strict about Drunk Driving they should Raise the drinking age from 18 to 21.  that would be a start.  reduce the alchohol content of their beers like in the  United States .  Canadian beer on average is much stronger than american beer.

I was planning on going to Montreal this week, but after researching the facts, I have learned that I can be arrested for witholding my 13 year old DUI from the Customs Agent.

I lied last January and got away with it.  They are making two federal cases out of nothing.  Turning me into a convicted felon for a DUI 13 years ago, and now lying to a Customs official.  Now I can have two felonies in Canada.

I am a recovering Alchoholic and have not had a sip of Alchohol in 13 years.  I have not  even owned a car in 13 years.

I AM ADVISING ALL AMERICANS TO BOYCOTT CANADA UNTIL THEY REVISE THIS ABSURD LAW.  (Keep the law but have a statue of limitations on it)

The bottom line is I dont think the government of Canada really cares if they lose the American tourist.  If they are not going to welcome me and make it easy, I will never go to Canada again.  I dont want to be going on vacation and then end up in jail for lying to an agent.

And yes, If I am spending 12 hours on a train ride, its 20 below zero, and its 10 at night, of course I would lie to the customs agent.  Telling the truth will definitely send you back.  If you lie, like I did last year, their is a chance they may not catch it.

I WILL NOT GO TO CANADA UNTIL THIS ABSURD LAW IS REVISED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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snow, i agree with you 100 % .  read my three long comments above. I am furious because I love going to Canada but I now know I will never go again. 

And the benefit is I dont patronize a country that doesn't want me there.  thats a plus

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eelpout, i gave up drinking and driving 13 years ago.  I fully paid my debt to society.  If this DUI is 30 years old or 13 years old the Canadians are prosecuting me again for the same offense.  Of course they have the right to refuse entry to anyone, but it is not logical

They clearly dont want my tourist dollars.   Read my three different comments.
I think then you will agree with me.

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I just find it funny that so many people get all ticked off when other countries try to tell us how we should do things.  Yet, some of us have no problem telling them how they should enforce their laws and Border Crossing Regulations.

If you don't like the way Canada does things, don't go there.  It's not that hard.

If you want to go there, there is a process to rehabilitate your record.  You pay the applicable fee and fill out the paperwork.  Then your problem goes away.

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Farnsworth,  If I can prevent one American besides myself from ever going to Canada again, I will have succeeded.  I Have been to Canada about 8 times over my life and love going there.  The people are also very nice.

This law is extremely illogical.  And yes, all countries have the right to do what they want. But that doesn't mean its right.  Raise your drinking age to 21, reduce the alchohol content in your beer, and then I will congradulate the Canadians for taking steps to make your roads safer.

 

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jimjakebob,
Reading your last post it seems you think Farnorth is a Canadian? It's just a screen name, honestly. He's a yankee, living in North Dakota, which is in the United States.

As far as Canadian laws go, yes, the legal age is 18 however the rest of their alcohol laws are much stricter than in the states. For example loose unopened cans of beer in a cooler in the trunk of a vehicle or in a boat are considered open containers and the fine is $100.00, not for the offense but for each can. Walking around a campground with a drink or beer in your hand is also prohibited and fined heavily. The only time alcohol is permitted in a vehicle is when it is being transported by the most direct route from the liquor vendor to your place of legal residence. They don't treat alcohol violations lightly and choose not to allow passage to foreigners who have demonstrated they have violated alcohol laws in their own country.

I'm glad to hear you've been sober for 13 years but the Canadians could care less. You could pay to apply for rehabilitation and if granted you'd be able to go up there again. Say, just curious, it's not the strip clubs in Montreal that you enjoy so much is it? Because if it is, believe me, I understand why.

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jimjakebob,
You're entitled to your opinions.  Out here in the sticks, we get along pretty well with out Canadian neighbors.  As a matter of fact, just a couple nights ago my family and I shared a table with some of those evil Canadians at a little bar and restaurant that we frequent located right on the border (American side) about 15 miles North of our house.

You know, it's funny but, other than the occasional "eh" I sometimes have a hard time noticing the difference in the people.  I get to Canada a lot because Winnipeg is closer than Grand Forks and Morden has a lot better golf course than anything close to where I live.

BTW, Bowhuntin is correct.  Canada has had some very strict liquor laws for quite some time.  Their legal limit was .08 long before we ever got there.  It is definitely a foreign country and you notice it.  I like to visit but I don't think I would want to live there.

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Canada has pretty strict seat belt laws, too.   Seems I remember about $200.00 an unsecured seatbelt while bear hunting up there!   
Some areas of Mexico has tough motorcyle helmet laws, too.   I don't recall what the fine is, but it was unbelievable.  When I asked them why they were so tough, they said the govt looked at the money they were spending on head injuries and long term care costs of people with head injuries and they decided it was too expensive and they'd try to cut it down.   No initiated measures down there to stop it.   Some beurocrat just changed the rules and that was that.
The funny thing is that in at least one of these tough helmet areas, its not unusual to see an entire family on a little motor scooter - sometimes 3 or 4 people, including babies, and everyone has a helmet on!   Kind of funny.... 

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Farnorth!  What you posted is right, eh!  Bloody right, eh!   I think I'll bugger off downstairs and jump on the exercise bike, eh?  

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Farnorth, I guess if I lived near the border I would feel differently. I live in north jersey.  About 400 miles from Montreal.  About 12 hours by train and now up to 4 hours at the border while they thoroughly question everybody on the train with every question U could imagine.

The irony of Canada having these ridulous draconian laws with no statue of limitations is that the people are extremely nice and the country is very laid back. I think the leglilsators should take a hard look at their laws.  

If they wanted to, they could probalby turn back more than 50% of the athletes and visitors for the Vancouver games.  They not only include DUI but any criminal or minor offense when deciding whether someone is admissable.   Over a lifetime, a good percentage of the people have some kind of indiscretion on their record.

CANADA SHOULD CUT TO THE GOOSE CHASE AND JUST CLOSE THEIR BORDERS TO FOREIGNERS IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING ANYWAY
 
AGAIN THEY SHOULD REVISE THIS RIDICULOUS DRACONIAN ILLOGICAL LAW TO HAVE  A STATUE OF LIMITATION.  I WOULD BE IN MONTREAL RIGHT NOW BUT I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BREAK THE CANADIAN LAW AND WILL KEEP MY DOLLAR IN AMERICA.

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If you have been convicted of a DUI within the last 10 years you will need permission to be able to enter Canada.  If it has been more than 10 years since you were convicted and you have NOTHING else on your record, you don't require anything to enter Canada.  If either you have more than one offence or one offence less than 10 years ago you need to apply for permission to be able to enter Canada.  Here is a link to a useful website that explains everything 

http://www.duicanadaentry.com/criminal-inadmissibility-canada.html.

     

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I went to the peace gardens last week, we needed our passport to get back into the states. The poor sap infront of us had his vehicle being ransacked, dont hassle the border patrol...

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In Canada the term felony is different than in the US...they use the term for all petty crimes including bad checks...The US actually started this by not allowing any Felons in even tho their definition is different .

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What I find comical about the strict Canadian booze laws is that they are some of the biggest boozers I have met.  The fact you can't drink a beer while ice fishing in a portable fish house is something that makes me unhappy, but they got nice walleyes so I guess I will make one trip a year.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

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"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

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Exactly what I was thinking!  St. pinlkady01!  When do we observe her holiday?

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I agree its frustrating to get to the border and find that you are not allowed in because of a past minor consumption or DUI.  Who made the decision to drink and get caught in the first place?  I tell my children all the time who are all over 20 now, getting a DUI or a minor consumption carries a heavy consequence not only in the U.S. but also Canada.  Its hard for me to believe that people are that stupid that they don't think their drinking carries no consequences.  I don't feel sorry for anyone who can't get into canada they brought it upon themselves.  I was born and raised in Ontario Canada and now living in Minnesota, I have always abided by laws from both countries how hard is that?

I get annoyed with these "holier-than-thou" comments. I'm sure you've never done anything wrong before in your life pinklady so thanks for the lecture. Enjoy Minnesota

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iluvswnd Said:
 

pinklady01 Said:

I agree its frustrating to get to the border and find that you are not allowed in because of a past minor consumption or DUI.  Who made the decision to drink and get caught in the first place?  I tell my children all the time who are all over 20 now, getting a DUI or a minor consumption carries a heavy consequence not only in the U.S. but also Canada.  Its hard for me to believe that people are that stupid that they don't think their drinking carries no consequences.  I don't feel sorry for anyone who can't get into canada they brought it upon themselves.  I was born and raised in Ontario Canada and now living in Minnesota, I have always abided by laws from both countries how hard is that?

I get annoyed with these "holier-than-thou" comments. I'm sure you've never done anything wrong before in your life pinklady so thanks for the lecture. Enjoy Minnesota

She didn't say she's never done anything wrong.   She basically said drinking and driving is stupid, and you are responsible for your own consequences.
 
Apparently you disagree with that.  LOL.   I'm guessing that being you twisted it around, you've gotten a dui or two?  


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jimjakebob Said:

I AM ADVISING ALL AMERICANS....

 
LOL.

If you were a badminton ace, I think this would be a good bumper sticker:  "Suck my Shuttlecock" 

 

 

 

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Kind of laugh at all the guys on here that wine about not being able to get into canada because they have a DUI (in the past)   Well don't drink and drive and you really never have to worry about things like being turned away.  What happens if you would have killed someone when you where driving and drinking(in the past I am sure you guys never do it anymore).. Funny how people blame everybody else for their  foolish behavior.. You guys act like it is everybody elses fault but your own.  Oh had a friend killed by a drunk driver years back,  wonder if that driver is bitching he can't get into canada because he made a booboo way back when.........

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jimjakebob Said:
I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BREAK THE CANADIAN LAW AND WILL KEEP MY DOLLAR IN AMERICA.

I thought you said you were in Jersey?

If you were a badminton ace, I think this would be a good bumper sticker:  "Suck my Shuttlecock" 

 

 

 

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Here is a thought......DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE?!?!?!?! Call me crazy.

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this is for real guys.  a few years back i used to work at a heavy equipment dealership.  myself and a few co-workers were going to canada for a training school on our equipment.  we got stopped at the boarder and had to come home because one of the guys had a DUI 9 years ago.  the rest of us could have went, but what were we supposed to do, leave the poor guy at the boarder????

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