they forgot the shovel and shut up part

sweeney Said:
they forgot the shovel and shut up part

No doubt

Wow, everybody on this site is sooo law abiding i would figure the comments would be about throwing this guy in the slammer for a hundred years.

Those 2 aren't very bright are they...... Forgeting the rules of the 3 S's is going to cost them big time.

Probably just a fine.

My question is; if the DNR continues to say there are no cougars in MN, how can they prosecute someone for shooting one? 

Bri-Guy2 Said:
My question is; if the DNR continues to say there are no cougars in MN, how can they prosecute someone for shooting one? 

oh they will find a way and it will be big money

I have been following the preditor thread on here since we had a large mountain lion on our game cam this fall. I find all the comments to be very interesting. I would agree that the big cat population is much higher than we are being told. Please tell me how I can help with this issue.

The cougar just shot in SW MN (near my hometown) was shot by one of my best friends family. I have alot of information on this. They are a great family and will now may be facing criminal charges for their actions. As you can imagine the family is getting accused of alot of things and I am sure they would appreciate any words of wisdom or kind comments. Trust me when I say their intentions were good and they were protecting their livestock and family. I am sure they have never even heard of the SSS rule!!!

Man who shot cougar in Jackson County felt he had no choice - TwinCities.com

oops... try again

http://www.twincities.com/ci_19448348?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150504217483628_21612102_10150505047278628

Carr Said:
I have been following the preditor thread on here since we had a large mountain lion on our game cam this fall. I find all the comments to be very interesting. I would agree that the big cat population is much higher than we are being told. Please tell me how I can help with this issue.

The cougar just shot in SW MN (near my hometown) was shot by one of my best friends family. I have alot of information on this. They are a great family and will now may be facing criminal charges for their actions. As you can imagine the family is getting accused of alot of things and I am sure they would appreciate any words of wisdom or kind comments. Trust me when I say their intentions were good and they were protecting their livestock and family. I am sure they have never even heard of the SSS rule!!!

Man who shot cougar in Jackson County felt he had no choice - TwinCities.com

well maybe he should have claimed self defense, say the dam thing attacked him. I can only imagine the MN DNR will throw the book at him to try and deter this from happening again since they love the fact we have these damn things around

When we lived in western MT. we were always told there were no grizzlies there.  We had seen a few while elk hunting but they continued to deny it for 15 years or better.  A friend had a 2000 lb. bull either die or got killed and it was dragged over 300 yards and was wedged between two trees.  Black bears couldn't do that and the DNR still denied it.  Look how long they denied cats in ND.  Happens all the time.

Carr Said:
I have been following the preditor thread on here since we had a large mountain lion on our game cam this fall. I find all the comments to be very interesting. I would agree that the big cat population is much higher than we are being told. Please tell me how I can help with this issue.

The cougar just shot in SW MN (near my hometown) was shot by one of my best friends family. I have alot of information on this. They are a great family and will now may be facing criminal charges for their actions. As you can imagine the family is getting accused of alot of things and I am sure they would appreciate any words of wisdom or kind comments. Trust me when I say their intentions were good and they were protecting their livestock and family. I am sure they have never even heard of the SSS rule!!!

Man who shot cougar in Jackson County felt he had no choice - TwinCities.com

I would say your friends are in trouble. They should have contacted authorities first since the cat was held up in a culvert. Chasing it out and shooting it does not sound like self defense to me. Now if the kids were out playing or the cat was agressive towards the men or livestock then by all means shoot and ask questions later!
 
Not knowing the law is not an excuse. Just pay the fine and move on IMO.

FargoCatMan Said:
Probably just a fine.

In Minnesota??? I can't find a listing for fines on poaching a protected animal on their website, but if they throw the book at them like many think should be done- it could be alot worse than a little fine.  Thousands of dollars, guns and hunting rights revoked, unable to purchase a gun again, even their vehicle taken away, or maybe even jail time.  Minnesota law is not just a slap on the wrist.  I hope that will not happen. Sad.

I know this might sound like a "killer" approach but if cats do not have quality habitat in Minnesota to allow a population to properly "exist", deemed by years of "professional" biologists, then why is there an issue with taking a rogue animal??

Are they setting themselves up as the next state who takes on cats and protects them when 100 years prior there was no issue with NOT having them in the state?

I don't know, just an open thought moment.

It's obvious this cat originated from a NDG&F trailer in the RRV. Nobody has actually seen the trailers like they have in other parts of the state, but we know G&F is hauling and releasing mountain lions in the valley, what other explanation would there be for the drop in deer numbers?

Tim Sandstrom Said:
I know this might sound like a "killer" approach but if cats do not have quality habitat in Minnesota to allow a population to properly "exist", deemed by years of "professional" biologists, then why is there an issue with taking a rogue animal??

Are they setting themselves up as the next state who takes on cats and protects them when 100 years prior there was no issue with NOT having them in the state?

I don't know, just an open thought moment.

You're joking right? I know you've seen the country in northern MN, how could anyone possibly say that isn't quality habitat? If deer, timber wolves and black bear can survive, I'm guessing mountain lions would do just fine also.

Bowhuntin Said:
It's obvious this cat originated from a NDG&F trailer in the RRV. Nobody has actually seen the trailers like they have in other parts of the state, but we know G&F is hauling and releasing mountain lions in the valley, what other explanation would there be for the drop in deer numbers?

There are a lot of opinions about the law thrown around here. I do it too. But if it were me I would quit talking about it, hire a lawyer and really start attacking the prosecution claiming the lion posed a threat to your livestock and family ( which I think it did, just by being there). Nobody should have to have a lion loose on the farm and can't do anything about it. You have a right to defend the farm and its inhabitants.

So tell them to quit talking to the papers and whoever and start talking to their lawyer. Here is a video that might help show how lions are a threat on the farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPqkc8Jjk4

bdog Said:
There are a lot of opinions about the law thrown around here. I do it too. But if it were me I would quit talking about it, hire a lawyer and really start attacking the prosecution claiming the lion posed a threat to your livestock and family ( which I think it did, just by being there). Nobody should have to have a lion loose on the farm and can't do anything about it. You have a right to defend the farm and its inhabitants.

So tell them to quit talking to the papers and whoever and start talking to their lawyer. Here is a video that might help show how lions are a threat on the farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPqkc8Jjk4

Best advice on this thread so far.