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Climate Change

by , Posted to on 06/01/2011 06:55 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
Over the last week I've heard a few people chirping about climate change causing all this flooding.   I ran into this article last night.    I guess climate does change. 

Greenland cold snap linked to Viking disappearance

An iceberg floats in the sea ice near the town of Uummannaq in western Greenland Reuters – An iceberg floats in the sea ice near the town of Uummannaq in western Greenland March 18, 2010. REUTERS/Svebor …

OSLO (Reuters) – A cold snap in Greenland in the 12th century may help explain why Viking settlers vanished from the island, scientists said on Monday.

The report, reconstructing temperatures by examining lake sediment cores in west Greenland dating back 5,600 years, also indicated that earlier, pre-historic settlers also had to contend with vicious swings in climate on icy Greenland.

"Climate played (a) big role in Vikings' disappearance from Greenland," Brown University in the United States said in a statement of a finding that average temperatures plunged 4 degrees Celsius (7F) in 80 years from about 1100.

Such a shift is roughly the equivalent of the current average temperatures in Edinburgh, Scotland, tumbling to match those in Reykjavik, Iceland. It would be a huge setback to crop and livestock production.

"There is a definite cooling trend in the region right before the Norse disappear," said William D'Andrea of Brown University, the lead author of the study in the U.S. journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Researchers have scant written or archaeological records to figure out why Viking settlers abandoned colonies on the western side of the island in the mid-1300s and the eastern side in the early 1400s.

Conflicts with indigenous Inuit, a search for better hunting grounds, economic stresses and natural swings in climate, perhaps caused by shifts in the sun's output or volcanic eruptions, could all be factors.

LITTLE ICE AGE

Scientists have previously suspected that a cooling toward a "Little Ice Age" from the 1400s gradually shortened growing seasons and added to sea ice that hampered sailing links with Iceland or the Nordic nations.

The study, by scientists in the United States and Britain, added the previously unknown 12th century temperature plunge as a possible trigger for the colonies' demise. Vikings arrived in Greenland in the 980s, during a warm period like the present.

"You have an interval when the summers are long and balmy and you build up the size of your farm, and then suddenly year after year, you go into this cooling trend, and the summers are getting shorter and colder and you can't make as much hay," D'Andrea said.

The study also traced even earlier swings in the climate to the rise and fall of pre-historic peoples on Greenland starting with the Saqqaq culture, which thrived from about 4,500 years ago to 2,800 years ago.

Scientists fear that the 21st century warming is caused by climate change, stoked by a build-up of greenhouse gases from human activities. An acceleration of warming could cause a meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet, raising world sea levels.

 


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Re: Climate Change
by on 06/01/2011 07:46 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Climate can't change without excessive carbon emissions.  That’s the most insane thing I’ve ever heard!!   There’s no way Al Gore; the man who invented the internet; could be wrong…..they must have found a way in the future to send our carbon emissions from present back to the twelfth century.  That can be the only logical answer, otherwise all the current climate legislations and the fact we need to burn urea with our diesel and what-not is bs….

Re: Climate Change
by on 06/01/2011 08:55 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/23/2004
Location: ND
Not to mention that only 12,000 to 15,000 years ago, most of North Dakota was under a sheet of glacial ice.  I guess Fred Flintstone invented the automobile and his carbon emissions started the whole thing.  Blaming man for climate change is insane.  The climate has always changed.  Always has, always will.  If we all move to tents and lived like Al Gore wants you to, the climate would still continue to change.  That's just the way it is.
Re: Climate Change
by on 06/01/2011 1:30 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
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Al Gore is highly vested in the Bakken oil play, from what I've heard, which is he is a large stake holder in Occidental.  Can anyone verify that?

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

Re: Climate Change
by on 06/01/2011 3:20 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
ggenthusiast Said:
Al Gore is highly vested in the Bakken oil play, from what I've heard, which is he is a large stake holder in Occidental.  Can anyone verify that?

There are a ton of liberal elitists invested deeply in oil. 
Re: Climate Change
by on 06/02/2011 10:37 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/09/2003
Location: ND

Hmmmmm.... So your telling me those that are driving up the price of oil are large investors in oil ?  WOW

Maybe congress should investigate this situation and forget about alot of the other stupid crap they investigate i.e. steroids in baseball...

Createing laws and regulations that increase the value of stock and so on is strikingly similar to insider trading. Maybe if ALGORE was sent to prison he could invent prison rape.... you know like he invented the internet!!

OH CRAP!!! I gotta go ManBearPig is after me!!!

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

Re: Climate Change
by on 06/02/2011 3:03 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I'm kind of worried. I wonder if fishmanh is ok?? I thought he would surely be defending ALGORE by now.

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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