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Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing

by , Posted to on 01/02/2012 1:46 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow-and-arrow killing
Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Somerset County District Attorney Jerry Spangler will not charge a man who fatally shot another man with a bow and arrow, saying today that changes in the state's Castle Doctrine factored into his decision.

Mr. Spangler said the unidentified 38-year-old Center City man who confessed to shooting Tony L. Bittinger on Oct. 10 claimed he did so in self-defense.

Mr. Bittinger was found shot through the chest with an arrow near the front steps to the man's house.

The Castle Doctrine was amended this summer to expand a homeowner's right to use deadly force against intruders, Mr. Spangler said.

The new Castle Doctrine expands a homeowner's "castle" to include porches and eliminates the owner's duty to retreat before attacking an intruder.

Mr. Spangler said the man might not have been charged under the old statute, but the new law "makes it much clearer" that the shooting was justified.

Trooper Joseph Drzal said Mr. Bittinger, who had been romantically involved with the man's wife, made several threatening phone calls to the man before driving up to his home to confront him. There, he threatened the man with a heavy wooden club.

The man told him to leave repeatedly. When Mr. Bittinger attempted to come up the stairs, the man shot him in the chest with an arrow. He died before first responders arrived.

Moriah Balingit: mbalingit@post-gazette.com or 412-263-2533.

First published on December 27, 2011 at 11:39 am
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Re: Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing
by on 01/02/2012 1:50 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I'd hate to ever be in a situation like the home owner.   First I'd tell my wife to hit the road if she was screwing around,  2nd we don't know all the details that led up to this confrontation,  3rd don't screw around with another man's wife.   If all the guy had was a club I think I would have stayed in the house and called 911.   If he would have broke in then all bets are off.   How would you have handled it based on what we know?
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



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by on 01/02/2012 1:54 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Re: Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing
by on 01/02/2012 2:27 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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3XGutshot Said:
I'd hate to ever be in a situation like the home owner.   First I'd tell my wife to hit the road if she was screwing around,  2nd we don't know all the details that led up to this confrontation,  3rd don't screw around with another man's wife.   If all the guy had was a club I think I would have stayed in the house and called 911.   If he would have broke in then all bets are off.   How would you have handled it based on what we know?
now here come the Brady Bunch to try to ban bow and arrows
People don't kill people bows and arrows do so lets outlaw arrows and let them have all the bows they want .

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drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters

Re: Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing
by on 01/02/2012 2:35 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I'm waiting for somebody in the media to say he is guilty of using non proportional force to defend himself.   I think they accused Israel of doing that when retaliating against terrorists.
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



Re: Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing
by on 01/02/2012 2:50 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 Thats got to be a bad couple of minutes after getting hit in the chest with a broad head,(assuming thats what was used)  seeing the blood spraying out of your chest.  I can't say i have any sympathy for him though.    
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by on 01/02/2012 2:53 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Anybody know what broadhead he used?

Mess around with a man's wife and you get what you get.
Re: Castle Doctrine means no charges in bow and arrow killing
by on 01/02/2012 2:54 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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One thing I'd like to know is if the homeowner called the cops after the threatening calls were made.  
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



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by on 01/02/2012 2:55 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Candiru Said:
 Thats got to be a bad couple of minutes after getting hit in the chest with a broad head,(assuming thats what was used)  seeing the blood spraying out of your chest.  I can't say i have any sympathy for him though.    

No doubt
 

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by on 01/02/2012 3:36 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Candiru Said:
 Thats got to be a bad couple of minutes after getting hit in the chest with a broad head,(assuming thats what was used)  seeing the blood spraying out of your chest.  I can't say i have any sympathy for him though.    

I have heard it put far less civilized but essentially, it's the screwing he gets for the screwing he got.
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by on 01/02/2012 4:16 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I havn't seen Svnmag on here yet but luckily it wasn't a .243 cuz if they bounce off deer i'm guessing a mad husband it would do the same.... (not poking any fun at you svnmag i just see you talk about the .243 all the time...haha)
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by on 01/02/2012 4:24 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Grizzly thing to have to do to someone. I'd much rather shoot somebody with a gun rather than a bow, that's for sure. Not sure why - just seems less gruesome.

But is it really? Wonder which is actually more painful? Bullet I suppose (shock wave)?
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by on 01/02/2012 5:29 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Horsager Said:
   
I have heard it put far less civilized but essentially, it's the screwing he gets for the screwing he got.

Perfect time for reflection, likely would not have gotten that with a well designed and placed bullet. Ahh, the beauty of a well designed broadhead.
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WHY WOULD YOU POST SOMETHING LIKE THIS.....GIVES BOWHUNTERS AND HUNTERS IN GENERAL A BAD NAME....BUT I LOVE IT......LITTLE DO  PEOPLE KNOW HUNTERS R THE CITY SLICKERS LAST LINE OF DEFENCE AND IF THERE IS A MEAT SHORTAGE,THEY WILL BE THE FIRST ONES TO GO HUNGERY AS I EAT......
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by on 01/02/2012 5:48 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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guywhofishes Said:
Grizzly thing to have to do to someone. I'd much rather shoot somebody with a gun rather than a bow, that's for sure. Not sure why - just seems less gruesome.

But is it really? Wonder which is actually more painful? Bullet I suppose (shock wave)?
Hard to say. Most of the deer I've shot with my bow the last few years went about 40 yards and were dead about 30 seconds after being shot.
 
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by on 01/02/2012 5:58 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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RIGHT IN THE GUTS....WITH A BOW ...WOW THAT WOULD HURT FOR EVER.....
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