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Buffalo Skull

by , Posted to on 06/11/2012 09:31 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/12/2010
Location: ND
Found a buffalo skull over the weekend now wondering what to use to preserve it. Anybody ever preserved a buffalo skull?
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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 09:48 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 I'd call the guy who mounted the deer in your avatar and see what he uses to preserve european mounts.

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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 09:55 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/09/2009
Location: ND
Ice tracker- you can buy a kit for whitening form Cabelas or van dykes- pretty easy to do if its already clean. We usually pull off the horns and paint with flat black too. Good luck!
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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 10:17 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2007
Location: ND
Was it on the ground surface? (died recently?)

If it was found in a creek or river bottom and is brown/black or has the "patina" then don't whiten it. Usually drying it out is all you need to do since it's half-way petrified already. Is it really crazy wide big steer looking thing (extinct species) or the modern buffalo? Like this?


I found a nice one in the old creek that runs just east side of Bismarck (past game and fish) when I was a kid. Still have it sitting next to me in my office. Wasn't the ice-age big wide one though, just a standard modern day critter. :(

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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 10:21 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/26/2009
Location: ND
you might not want to whiten or preserve it.  with all the major flooding and erosion in the last couple years many once burried and forgotton things have been exposed. 

Over 10,000 years ago there were many more species of large mammals here in N america and there were also many more species of bison.  My guess is you chances of finding an extinct specie of bison now is greater than finding the common Bison bison of today.  I'd guess you probably found a Bison antiqqus or Bison occidentalis skull.

can you post a pic?  what does it measure from horn tip to horn tip?  if you lay a straight edge accross the skull resting on the horn tips does it touch the skull or is it 1.5 to 2 inches above it.  these details can tell me what specie you have found.
Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 10:31 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/26/2009
Location: ND
if it looks like the ones in the above pics, just rinse the dirt gravel & mud out of them and let it dry.  it's probably half mineralized anyway, on its way to fossilization.
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by on 06/11/2012 10:32 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
Ice Tracker Said:
Found a buffalo skull over the weekend now wondering what to use to preserve it. Anybody ever preserved a buffalo skull?
Thats a sweet find.  i would love to have a buffalo skull an hang it on the wall.

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by on 06/11/2012 10:41 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/29/2009
Location: ND
I have been told that if you find something (fossil, arrowhead, etc) that has been moved from its original resting place you can legally take it.(assuming you are not on private land).   BUT if you dig something up you have to notify the state and it is illegal to take it.

I know a guy who walks creeks in the badlands looking for buff skulls exposed from recent rains and is quite successful.

If a skull is "half mineralized or fossilized" does it continue the process in your basement?

                                                                                                                         

Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 10:48 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
The skull looks like the bottom picture.... People have told me they have dug them out of the river banks and in a couple years they pretty much disintegrate
Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after
A stream never rises above its source
If I had 8 hours to chop down a tree, I would spend six hours sharpening my axe
Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 11:01 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2007
Location: ND
Ice Tracker Said:
The skull looks like the bottom picture.... People have told me they have dug them out of the river banks and in a couple years they pretty much disintegrate
I suppose it depends on the oxygen exposure during submersion (no oxygen is best of course), how long it was exposed to freeze/thaw, etc.

Mine is "perfect" in that it's still solid as original bone but brown/tan from mineralization and/or humic/fulvic exposure.

The only thing I can think of if it seems crumbly/crappy now would be to dry it out then slather/coat/soak it in some sort of clear casting resin/epoxy. If it's not crumbling now I think you're good to juct let it dry. It shouldn't "rot more" without additional sun, moisture, or freeze/thaw.

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by on 06/11/2012 11:13 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Mine... I was hoping to find an embedded arrowhead. Wouldn't that be awesome?

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by on 06/11/2012 11:35 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I would say that yours is an extinct species
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Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after
A stream never rises above its source
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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 11:42 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I have a partial skull,   from the old long horned typed buffalo.  Skull plate and  one horn, found when I was younger on the Little Mo   , I still have it. just kept it in a dry place. Thought about "loaning" it out to the local  museum if they wanted to display.

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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 1:14 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/20/2009
Location: nd

I know ND G&F made it against the law to possess an intact skull (of a game species?) without a hunting tag to go with it...don't how a bison skull fits into that...antique or otherwise. I have been told by USFS staff that it is against the law to pick up or dig for skulls, artifacts, and even rocks (chunks of scoria or petrified wood) on the national grass lands.  On private land they are property of the land owner.

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by on 06/11/2012 1:19 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Pat'sPlace Said:

I know ND G&F made it against the law to possess an intact skull (of a game species?) without a hunting tag to go with it...don't how a bison skull fits into that...antique or otherwise. I have been told by USFS staff that it is against the law to pick up or dig for skulls, artifacts, and even rocks (chunks of scoria or petrified wood) on the national grass lands.  On private land they are property of the land owner.

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by on 06/11/2012 1:22 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
guywhofishes Said:
Mine... I was hoping to find an embedded arrowhead. Wouldn't that be awesome?

The mushroom and skull man.  Did you find this in ND?

Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 1:27 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
It takes many, many years (generally thousands at a minimum) and the right environment to fossilize a bone through mineral replacement.  Most modern skulls that come out of a river bank are probably too recent to have seen much replacement of bone material with inorganic minerals (quartz and the like).  Hence they will tend to degrade over time if left in the elements, but should be ok once through the drying process if brought indoors.  Well, unless Fido takes a liking to his new treat.
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Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 1:29 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Enslow Said:
guywhofishes Said:
Mine... I was hoping to find an embedded arrowhead. Wouldn't that be awesome?

The mushroom and skull man.  Did you find this in ND?

Yep - eastern Bismarck. One horn sticking out of the creek bank.

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by on 06/11/2012 1:56 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Enslow Said:
Pat'sPlace Said:

I know ND G&F made it against the law to possess an intact skull (of a game species?) without a hunting tag to go with it...don't how a bison skull fits into that...antique or otherwise. I have been told by USFS staff that it is against the law to pick up or dig for skulls, artifacts, and even rocks (chunks of scoria or petrified wood) on the national grass lands.  On private land they are property of the land owner.

Finder keepers losers wheepers in my book


Can I surface collect for arrowheads or geodes? Can I dig for artifacts?

FAQ
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has a responsibility for ensuring that properties of a cultural, historical, or traditional nature located on Corps lands are preserved and managed appropriately. Removal of any artifact, prehistoric or historic, from Federal lands is a violation of both Federal regulations and Federal law. Conviction for digging for artifacts can result in both substantial financial penalty which could be as much as a $250,000.00 and incarceration of up to five years.




I am thinking a fine such as stated above would change the finders into weepers.
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by on 06/11/2012 3:40 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Allen Said:
Enslow Said:
Pat'sPlace Said:

I know ND G&F made it against the law to possess an intact skull (of a game species?) without a hunting tag to go with it...don't how a bison skull fits into that...antique or otherwise. I have been told by USFS staff that it is against the law to pick up or dig for skulls, artifacts, and even rocks (chunks of scoria or petrified wood) on the national grass lands.  On private land they are property of the land owner.

Finder keepers losers wheepers in my book


Can I surface collect for arrowheads or geodes? Can I dig for artifacts?

FAQ
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has a responsibility for ensuring that properties of a cultural, historical, or traditional nature located on Corps lands are preserved and managed appropriately. Removal of any artifact, prehistoric or historic, from Federal lands is a violation of both Federal regulations and Federal law. Conviction for digging for artifacts can result in both substantial financial penalty which could be as much as a $250,000.00 and incarceration of up to five years.




I am thinking a fine such as stated above would change the finders into weepers.
Unless you quote the Book Of Enslow,  then the courtroom will hush and there will be apple martinis for everyone.

                                                                                                                         

Re: Buffalo Skull
by on 06/11/2012 4:05 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
Allen Said:
Enslow Said:
Pat'sPlace Said:

I know ND G&F made it against the law to possess an intact skull (of a game species?) without a hunting tag to go with it...don't how a bison skull fits into that...antique or otherwise. I have been told by USFS staff that it is against the law to pick up or dig for skulls, artifacts, and even rocks (chunks of scoria or petrified wood) on the national grass lands.  On private land they are property of the land owner.

Finder keepers losers wheepers in my book


Can I surface collect for arrowheads or geodes? Can I dig for artifacts?

FAQ
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has a responsibility for ensuring that properties of a cultural, historical, or traditional nature located on Corps lands are preserved and managed appropriately. Removal of any artifact, prehistoric or historic, from Federal lands is a violation of both Federal regulations and Federal law. Conviction for digging for artifacts can result in both substantial financial penalty which could be as much as a $250,000.00 and incarceration of up to five years.




I am thinking a fine such as stated above would change the finders into weepers.
Lets see em catch me.  Not that i will be on corp land looking for stuff other than roosters.

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