Buck tags or doe tags

Pages

145 posts / 0 new
Last post
7mmshooter's picture
7mmshooter
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 12/22/08
Buck tags or doe tags

I,m relativly new to the site maybe this has been covered before, but I'm wandering what peoples thoughts are on the lottery system. It works good in a lot of units where everyone is happy because they get a buck tag every year, but some units say 2f2 born and lived all my life it's getting down to about 40% chance at getting a buck tag that was 07 % probably lower in 08. Myself Haven't had a buck tag since 06. With so many doe tags avalable wouldn't it make sense to raise the buck tags to say $40 and lower the doe tags to $10 or $15 dollars. It would cut back on alot of the buck tags from people that don't care what they shoot but send in for a buck tag cause they can and then shoot the first 2x2 they see cause they want to be done the first day or two. Don't get me wrong I eat a lot of deer and get a lot of doe tags but there is people that only hunt for the meat why not try and persuade them to get 2 doe tags instead of one buck tag and help in slimming down the doe population, or maybe if get a buck tag have to get a doe tag just some thoughts would like to hear others opinions.

fconcolor's picture
fconcolor
Offline
Joined: 3/27/07

we usually do not have this kind of post so early in the year. We are truely blessed in 2009!

hlt's picture
hlt
Offline
Joined: 1/15/06

I agree with you 7mm, except I think the buck tag should cost $100 and the does should stay at $20.

One Big Ass Mistake America !

bontop2's picture
bontop2
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 11/19/05

I just had my first buck tag last fall since 2004 and don't mind having to shoot does in between it let's the bucks grow larger. And I also was born and raised in that unit and yes it is tough to get a tag but think the game and fish are controling the deer just fine...

Hunt today like there may be no tomorrow!

hlt's picture
hlt
Offline
Joined: 1/15/06

Maybe this is what the G&F should think about for herd management also.

One Big Ass Mistake America !

ndfishhawg's picture
ndfishhawg
Offline
Joined: 5/19/05

I like the system and think it's really the fairest way there is. My only problem is that as buck tags get harder to draw, I see more and more people putting in for buck tags for their wives as well even though they don't hunt. They then treat this tag as "theirs". Even though they basically stole it from the rest of us. Maybe this is the year I'll get mad enough to call them in like a person really should. Afterall, it's poaching.

mhanson6's picture
mhanson6
Offline
Joined: 10/6/06

yeup, good post 7mm , i hear it many times every year before and during hunting, why didnt you shoot that buck or why are you so darn picky, you cant eat the horns, Thats my favorite one, YOU CANT EAT the horns, usually the person/persons saying that fraze also have buck tags, if you cant eat the horns , GET A DOE, what we need is a point restriction possibly , or something , there is no need to shoot young bucks with all these doe tags, however most know how i feel about shooting alot of does too, but shooting a couple does instead of a buck will only do us good as hunters

Lycanthrope's picture
Lycanthrope
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 2/3/04

If you are a meat hunter, buck tags are more cost effective because of the typical size difference between male and female deer. I think the price should be adjusted accordingly. Maybe make doe tags 15 and buck tags 30. Does the G&F really need more money to spend sending out biased propaganda? That stunt really turned me off to giving them extra $. $100 for a buck tag sounds ridiculous to me, what would be the justification in that?

savage270's picture
savage270
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 9/28/06

First, I am tired of the argument, that meat hunters should not apply for buck tags. A 2x2 buck will give you more meat for your $20, than even a large doe. Second, I think the complainers would benefit from the advice my 3 year old son's, pre-school teacher gives out while she hands out things in class. "you get what you get and you don't fuss about it". Just enjoy the opportunity to get out there and experience our great outdoors.

MooseDroptine's picture
MooseDroptine
Offline
Joined: 1/17/08

maybe we should raise the prices so only the rich people could afford a tag for does and bucks, and the heck with everyone else who loves to hunt. lol

cpete's picture
cpete
Offline
Joined: 1/14/03

I think buck tags should remain at $20 but you must own at least 480 acres in the unit you apply in. That oughta cut down on the buck applications

 

ggenthusiast's picture
ggenthusiast
Offline
Joined: 9/11/02

If you own 480 acres, then you'll get a free gratis tag anyway. I hope you were being sarcastic, cpete.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

cpete's picture
cpete
Offline
Joined: 1/14/03

Yes gg, I was being sarcastic and upping the ante for all those that believe they should be $50 to $100.

 

fire angel's picture
fire angel
Offline
Joined: 7/15/03

I think that buck tags should be at least $5000 that will keep it to only the true trophy hunters. The doe tags can then be given away and the Game & Fish still makes their money.

Here's to beating a dead horse. I think this horse has been dead so long the skeletal remains are even pretty much gone.

ndfishhawg's picture
ndfishhawg
Offline
Joined: 5/19/05

I agree with fire. I think Tim needs a "dead horse" stamp. Then when these posts pop up he could put a little dead horse overlay over the topic warning us that it's just another dead horse... :)

Headhunter's picture
Headhunter
Offline
Joined: 12/17/01

Buck tags should always cost more than doe tags. Paaaaiiiinfully obvious common sense. Painfully.

DecoyVC's picture
DecoyVC
Offline
Joined: 9/14/05

2F2 is very tough, I've gone 3 straight years without a buck tag at times. That's when I picked up bow hunting though.

Lycanthrope's picture
Lycanthrope
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 2/3/04

I was told tag prices are legislated, G&F cannot change them, would have to be passed in legislature or directly by the Hoeven. Not sure how accurate that is but it could be....

nxs's picture
nxs
Offline
Joined: 10/3/07

Photobucket

Meelosh's picture
Meelosh
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 5/26/06

Earn a buck by shooting a doe is probably the best way to go.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

Andyt11's picture
Andyt11
Offline
Joined: 12/23/07

hey savage id bet you if you shot a 5x5 you would get more me off of it than your scawny 2x2. I would also bet if you went and shot a mature doe it would be just as big as your 2x2. By shooting a yearling or two year old deer your just ruining it for the rest of us to have a chance at a deer of a lifetime. Like a wise man once said if you shoot the little ones they wont get big.

All it would take is a little deer management and unselfishness by people and good ol nd could be growing some hogg deer.

AT

Murdock's picture
Murdock
Offline
GREENHORN
Joined: 7/12/03

Hey King,define a deer of a lifetime??Does this mean you would stop hunting for a big one if you got this lifetime deer??What would you do with this deer of a lifetime??Maybe the rest of us aren't looking for a deer of a lifteime.

Andyt11's picture
Andyt11
Offline
Joined: 12/23/07

well id say something over 170 is real big score wise but just having the chance at a mature deer everytime or every couple times you get a tag would be great. Im just sayin if people are shooting young deer then how many deer actually get to grow up and reach there full potential. And i dont know why someone would want to shoot a 2x2 when they can have a legitimate chance at a mature deer, its so much more self rewarding.

Also if they want a 2x2 over over a doe because there is possibly a bit more meat, well then you go get that rutted up stinky 2x2. congrats. I just see it as being selfish and doing more harm than good, but then again maybe im the one being selfish bcuz i want to shoot a big one. just my opinion i guess

AT

mhanson6's picture
mhanson6
Offline
Joined: 10/6/06

then why are you hunting if not for the deer of a lifetime, if its for meat, better get a doe then dont you think

Andyt11's picture
Andyt11
Offline
Joined: 12/23/07

im not the one hunting for mainly meat otherwise i would just apply for doe tags. I try and get my buck tag then if i dont i do my part and take some does out of areas with high numbers of deer.

AT

ggenthusiast's picture
ggenthusiast
Offline
Joined: 9/11/02

Why not change the two types of tags to either "Any Deer" or "Antlerless Deer". That way the once-in-a-lifetime buck hunter can pop a doe for meat when their trigger finger gets itchy.

Anybody thought of that?? Its not like there will be an overharvest of does, since that has been the ongoing push to kill more does.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

MooseDroptine's picture
MooseDroptine
Offline
Joined: 1/17/08

nice nxs lol

Fox Island Outfitter's picture
Fox Island Outfitter
Offline
Joined: 2/25/02

Yes, I'm pretty sure nxs summed it up the best.

The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. Then why do I hunt? I hunt for the same reason my well-fed cat hunts...because I must, because it is in the blood, because I am the decendent of a thousand generations of hunters. I hunt because I am a hunter.- Finn Aagard

Horsager's picture
Horsager
Offline
Joined: 8/12/03

Just wanted a post on the new site.

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.



Jiffy's picture
Jiffy
Offline
Joined: 1/8/02

I try to shoot button bucks for my antlerless tags....they taste better than little does. 

erickub's picture
erickub
Offline
Joined: 3/11/09

 Commenting Test from Admin.....


Total Outdoor Network
Outdoor Website Owners - Submit your Site to our Index | Learn about the TON Platform
Developers - View the TON Developer Center - API, Widgets, and More

Pages