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by , Posted to on 03/16/2011 3:25 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
ND resident bought a SD boat, private party cash deal. Wife says I have to pay sales tax. When, how do I have to do that? There's gotta be a way around it, not?

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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by on 03/16/2011 3:36 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/31/2003
Location: ND
Mmmm,........you should have 30 days to pay it. 5% on whatever you paid for it.


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by on 03/16/2011 3:39 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/14/2005
Location: ND
GG,

I boat my boat in SD as well. I think you have to pay the sales tax using the form below and then have to provide proof of payment when you register the boat. At least that's what I remember.

http://www.nd.gov/tax/salesanduse/forms/one-timeremittance-enabled.pdf

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by on 03/16/2011 3:54 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/17/2009
Location: nd
When I purchased a boat in SD I simply went to my local G&F office with a purchase agreement and paid the tax while purchasing the boat license.  I had to pay 5% of the purchase price.
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by on 03/16/2011 4:00 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/20/2003
Location: ND
 If you buy it from a private seller theres no tax on it. Only if you buy it from a dealership.

quote from link above

"Watercraft purchased from an individual not in the business of buying and selling watercraft is considered a casual sale and is not

subject to state and local sales tax. If the watercraft was purchased from an individual, please attach a copy of the sales receipt to

the boat license application and mail it directly to the North Dakota Game and Fish. The receipt should include the seller’s name,

address, and signature.

Casual sales do not have to be reported to the Tax Department."

 

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the American Government take care of him;better take a closer look at the American Indian."
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by on 03/16/2011 4:04 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2009
Location: ND
No tax on private party sales.  Simple as that
Live every day!
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by on 03/16/2011 4:25 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/23/2009
Location: ND
Tritonman Said:
No tax on private party sales.  Simple as that

Correct
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by on 03/16/2011 5:14 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/14/2005
Location: ND
Yep, I bought mine through a dealer, didn't catch the private party piece in the original post.
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by on 03/16/2011 5:47 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2010
Location: ND
BIG SLOUGH Said:
Tritonman Said:
No tax on private party sales.  Simple as that

Correct


I second your "correct".  This was brought up last year about this time.
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by on 03/16/2011 5:59 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2003
Location: ND
 I agree same thing happened to me. I didnt have to attach anything when I registered it though.


5575 Said:

 If you buy it from a private seller theres no tax on it. Only if you buy it from a dealership.

quote from link above

"Watercraft purchased from an individual not in the business of buying and selling watercraft is considered a casual sale and is not

subject to state and local sales tax. If the watercraft was purchased from an individual, please attach a copy of the sales receipt to

the boat license application and mail it directly to the North Dakota Game and Fish. The receipt should include the seller’s name,

address, and signature.

Casual sales do not have to be reported to the Tax Department."


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by on 03/17/2011 07:48 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
So, no tax, just call G&F and get it licensed?

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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by on 03/17/2011 07:57 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/15/2003
Location: ND
You need to present a copy of the sales agreement w/ the seller's info at the time of licensing. 
ggenthusiast Said:
So, no tax, just call G&F and get it licensed?


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by on 03/17/2011 08:03 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/08/2004
Location: ND
I never had to provide anything but the old registration card proving that the previous owner had signed off and that I could register the boat in my name. Only the friggen DMV worries about sale tax on a vehicle. 
fire angel Said:
You need to present a copy of the sales agreement w/ the seller's info at the time of licensing. 
ggenthusiast Said:
So, no tax, just call G&F and get it licensed?




IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by on 03/17/2011 09:17 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/08/2009
Location: ND
Good deal!  I just bought a boat the same way.  Was hoping not to have to pay sales tax to.
 
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by on 03/17/2011 09:24 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/17/2011
Location: ND
Sorry guys but you are wrong....you need to pay the sales tax....private party does not matter if it was purchased out of state and brought into ND.

Had a buddy just get burned on a sales tax audit for the tax on his boat....and I just called the sales tax dept to verify.

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by on 03/17/2011 09:36 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: ND
clarke Said:
Sorry guys but you are wrong....you need to pay the sales tax....private party does not matter if it was purchased out of state and brought into ND.

Had a buddy just get burned on a sales tax audit for the tax on his boat....and I just called the sales tax dept to verify.


Nope, pretty sure you are wrong.  I specifically asked when licensing my boat for the 1st time.  If it is a used boat from a private party, no sales tax.  Like what was said before, bring in the old registration with the sellers signature, license, and go fishing.  Here is a link to this discussion last year.  I believe the reason is that boats are not titled in ND, just registered.  Hence, there is still tax on private party used vehicles.

http://www.fishingbuddy.com/sales_tax_on_a_used_boat



 I don’t want to kill the animal, but I do want to warn it, and say “hey, I think you’re pretty neat, but I respect your distance.” There’s bears out here, there’s mountain cougars, and biting goats.

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by on 03/17/2011 09:48 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: ND
Check the WATERCRAFT USE TAX section on the 2nd page of the document below.

http://www.nd.gov/tax/salesanduse/forms/one-timeremittance-enabled.pdf

 I don’t want to kill the animal, but I do want to warn it, and say “hey, I think you’re pretty neat, but I respect your distance.” There’s bears out here, there’s mountain cougars, and biting goats.

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by on 03/17/2011 09:52 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/16/2004
Location: ND
lwittmayer Said:
clarke Said:
Sorry guys but you are wrong....you need to pay the sales tax....private party does not matter if it was purchased out of state and brought into ND.

Had a buddy just get burned on a sales tax audit for the tax on his boat....and I just called the sales tax dept to verify.


Nope, pretty sure you are wrong.  I specifically asked when licensing my boat for the 1st time.  If it is a used boat from a private party, no sales tax.  Like what was said before, bring in the old registration with the sellers signature, license, and go fishing.  Here is a link to this discussion last year.  I believe the reason is that boats are not titled in ND, just registered.  Hence, there is still tax on private party used vehicles.

http://www.fishingbuddy.com/sales_tax_on_a_used_boat



Clarke,

You are mistaken sir.

YES, I am that foolish!

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by on 03/17/2011 09:52 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/16/2009
Location: ND
clarke Said:
Sorry guys but you are wrong....you need to pay the sales tax....private party does not matter if it was purchased out of state and brought into ND.

Had a buddy just get burned on a sales tax audit for the tax on his boat....and I just called the sales tax dept to verify.

No.  You are wrong. 
private party sale = no tax  (in state or out of state sale)
dealer sale = tax   (in state or out of state sale) 



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by on 03/17/2011 10:27 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/17/2011
Location: ND
I apologize guys....I did just call the state tax dept and ask...imagine I was given the wrong answer from them....and I know my buddy paid his $$ on his boat purchase from SD....I will be calling him immediately on this.

Thanks for the correction.
Clarke

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by on 03/17/2011 10:31 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/30/2009
Location: ND
There is definitely no tax if it was bought in state from a private party.  All I had the seller do was sign the registration card that you get when you register your boat in ND and bring that to the G&F when you register it in your name.  Not sure if buying out of state would be different...wouldn't you need to go by SD's laws if it was bought there? 
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