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Black Russian Pheasant

by , Posted to on 10/26/2005 1:04 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/14/2004
Location: ND
I saw the picture of the black russian pheasant. It is true that is a female melanistic pheasant. We raise them and release them. Is that true that they do not count against your ringneck count since they are not considered a ringneck?
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by on 10/26/2005 1:19 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/22/2002
Location: ND
Ford: would you have any adult roosters you would be willing to part with? I need one to mount.

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by on 10/26/2005 1:22 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2003
Location: ND
I have heard them called both Black Russian Pheasant and Black Melanistic Pheasant.

I called Randy Kriel; game biologist with NDG&F last year after I shot a black Russian rooster pheasant. He was unaware of the species of bird and told me if they are not on an extinction list and/or NDG&F has no season on them, it is kind of like gophers; year around, rooster or hen, as many as you want.

But these are supposedly a heartier bird and can with stand a harsher winter than the Chinese Ring Pheasant, personally I would like to see larger numbers of these and eventually have them have their own season and separate possession limits. It will take years and more people raising and releasing them. Both Black Russians I have shot, they have been between me and the sun, with their dark color I thought I was shooting a Chinese Ring Pheasant.

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by on 10/26/2005 1:23 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
yah we would have no problem with that but we need to wait a while longer feathers are not all grown in yet. Email me at frontdesk@doubleee.com
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by on 10/26/2005 1:27 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/14/2004
Location: ND
yeah they are suppose to be heatier bird we have had some success with them but we release over 150 a year. it takes some time but it is fun to get something different going.
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by on 10/26/2005 1:29 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/06/2003
Location: ND
melanistic mutant pheasant. Google it you will find a lot of info about them. We raised them in Minnesota and they flew harder and seemed a lot hardier then a ring neck.. But I don't understand why they are a a separate limit it should read pheasant..
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by on 10/26/2005 1:34 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/07/2005
Location: MN
Hey MO! Did you know what it was when you pulled the trigger? To me,looks to much like a hen.Curious.
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by on 10/26/2005 1:57 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2003
Location: ND
tim,

I'm trying to answer, the inappropriate language block is stopping me. I think it's a little sensative. Nothing is vulger in my answer?

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by on 10/26/2005 2:02 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: MN
Easy MO,just curious,heck could be about anything in my book,even a "high country Blue Grouse" found in colorado that got lost...lol
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by on 10/26/2005 2:18 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/05/2005
Location: ND
The filter is screwing with me right now so I'm going to post this a little at a time to see where the problem is.
This is an excerpt from an internet site.

"This melanistic mutant is a pure breed. These large, beautiful pheasants feature an iridescent, greenish-black plumage.

The one in MossyMO's picture is a hen. The males are much brighter with the large red eye patch like a ringneck.
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by on 10/26/2005 2:19 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Here's some more from the excerpt.

A favorite variety for release, they display a remarkable ability to survive and reproduce in the wild. Prime habitat consists of 55-70 % crop fields such as corn, soybean, or small grains.
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by on 10/26/2005 2:21 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Here's the rest.

The remainder of the habitat should include some wetlands, gra$$land, and woodland or brushy thickets." from source.

I can't believe the word gra$$ gets filtered out. Weak!!
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by on 10/26/2005 2:29 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2003
Location: ND
Tim,

It is a hen.

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by on 10/26/2005 2:38 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I saw a Ringneck Rooster in tall grass (right where this one was). I pulled up on him and it was still standing there. Yes, I groundballed it..... I know, let them flush!!! Anyways, the part I missed was while I pulled up, the Rooster ran left into some seeds. My sons got that one, the Ringneck in the photo.

I think that Rooster had been hitting on some dark meat!!!

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by on 10/26/2005 2:41 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/17/2002
Location: ND
What ever happened the Schezwan Pheasant? I know there were some experimental raise and releases. What ever happened to that experiment? Could this be one of those?
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by on 10/26/2005 2:44 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

Dirty and others,


I am expierementing with the language filter because I'm being FORCED to!!!!!!!!!!!  There has been a lot of poor word choices in the last few weeks and I'm getting bombarded with emails about cleaning it up because their kid, etc has been reading it.  I think you people know who you are that use words flirting with undesirable.  If they don't get used, I don't have to mess with the filter.  For now, I disabled some of the words.  Please practice better judgement on wording and all can be avoided!


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by on 10/26/2005 3:02 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: MN
Mossy Mossy Mossy...In the heat of the moment huh?Wonder how they get along with the ringnecks? wonder if they compete for food with the ringnecks?
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by on 10/26/2005 3:17 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Ya, I know.........bad timing !!!

Watching them in pens together they seem to mingle natural, I haven't noticed any segregation.

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by on 10/26/2005 5:45 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
they actually cross breed, i shot a partial melanistic a couple of years ago but they do interact i am not sure about fighting over feed but as darwin says...survival of the fittest!!!! who know but the way it looks the ring necks have the rule of the roost so far.
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by on 10/27/2005 00:40 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2005
Location: ND
to answer some questions on these birds, we have raised them for almost ten years now. they do breed with the common pheasant and some of the offspring can be regular or malinistic mixed(we call them black mutants)it's kind of like labs. They are physically larger than a regular ringneck but seem quite weak in spirit compared to the regular. We learned this by watching them in the spring fighting, the mutants almost always seem to get their tails kicked. The hens have the same feather patterning as a regular but almost a mahogany to black color without the shimmer. As far as I know they do count towards your limit, same as an albino or a golden pheasant would so don't get caught with an extra or a hen. I'm surprised that whoever posted that pic hasn't had a warden knocking on their door yet. And if you ever get one, don't be hesitant on mounting it, like I said, we have raised them in large numbers for almost 10 years now and it is still not super common to shoot one in our release area.

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by on 10/27/2005 00:42 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Oh, and they get along great! except spring


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