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by , Posted to on 11/08/2007 10:48 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/19/2006
Location: ND
Has anyone else gotten upset with Bisman Online for allowing Auto dealerships to advertise there product. I have put items on the automobile page (Trucks specifically) and in two days my ad has went from the first page to the 17th or 20th. They pay for advertising in the finder and the tribune that reaches plenty of people. Why should they be allowed to advertise on a website that was designed for the public to sell merchandise without having a large advertising bill. They work advertising into the price of there product so go somewhere else and quit cluttering up the website. If I wanted to see what they have for sale I would go to there website to check them out.
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by on 11/08/2007 11:09 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
catchem,

I believe they have an inventory contract with Bisman Online.

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by on 09/10/2010 11:40 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/10/2010
Location: ND
no i havnt had the same problem but i dont blame u for gettn upset. i definatly would be. and that is kinda rude of them 2 do that 2 people. companies r so annoyn these days and it irritates me how companies r.
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by on 09/11/2010 01:05 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/14/2009
Location: ND
Did you pay anything for your FREE advertisement? Do you people even think before you post?
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by on 09/11/2010 05:56 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/03/2004
Location: ND
I dont like it either, if I wanted to see what dealers have I would go to their website. Thats like if walmart started advertising everything they have on bisman, it kind of wrecks the site. There should at least be a way to filter private ads from businesses.
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by on 09/11/2010 06:11 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/09/2007
Location: AK
I am pretty sure there is a filter for private and dealerships ads.  Was on there a few days ago and I was POd w/ all the dealership ads and then I found a button on the left side of the page where you could filter them out.

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Re: Bisman Online
by on 09/11/2010 08:38 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/25/2007
Location: ND
 like walleye said we dont pay anything for our free ads on there. i have used bis man many times to sell things. i agree that the dealer thing is getting out of hand, but they arent going to change it cause they charge dealers to post ads on the site i believe. would be nice tho if they would have a tab for dealers only and one for private party
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by on 09/11/2010 08:46 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
frosty2169 Said:
I am pretty sure there is a filter for private and dealerships ads.  Was on there a few days ago and I was POd w/ all the dealership ads and then I found a button on the left side of the page where you could filter them out.

Frosty


Yep, works for me too.
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Re: Bisman Online
by on 09/11/2010 08:59 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2009
Location: ND
There is a filter for private adds only, and most of the time for something like a vehicle people are doing a search anyway because there are so many adds.  So they will find your vehicle if you put a good title on your ad.
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by on 09/11/2010 09:01 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Yeah, I know what you mean.  Tough to get to the private ads even though yep, they are free for us peons.
Thanks for the info Frosty.   I'll stop being irritated and hit that button! 
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by on 09/11/2010 1:41 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/04/2002
Location: ND
It bothered me before I found the filter to get them out of there. Now, with the ability to weed out dealers and put in a price range you can search the auto groups pretty efficiently.

You can't aim a duck to death.

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by on 09/11/2010 2:48 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/09/2009
Location: ND
BisMan in entitled to make some money. Nothing is "free".  I think it is mighty good of them to provide the filter. The car dealers are not the only business that is advertising on that site by any means.
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by on 09/11/2010 3:44 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Its sure a great website to buy and sell stuff.   Finding something locally sure beats finding something on E-Bay or Craigs List over in East Tonail Falls Oregon or nowhere, somewhere!  Shipping and not being able to see if before you buyy can kill what you think is a good deal in a big hurry! 
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by on 09/11/2010 6:18 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/04/2002
Location: ND
Yeah, sometimes you find out the guy you are buying from is someone you know (when you go to pick up the item).  

You can't aim a duck to death.

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by on 09/28/2010 4:03 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/28/2010
Location: SD
Here's one for ya!
Car Dealer PHP Motors Commits FRAUD with Deceptive Business Practices‎ - ‎ - Today
When this schlock operation was originally started, it was advertised as People Helping People Motors. What a JOKE that is!
I bought a 1998 Chevrolet Pickup from the Mandan Auto Auction on Saturday, September 25th which was consigned by PHP Motors.
I paid over $3700.00, took it to the gas station and put $62.00 in gas, checked the oil. A quart low, put in a quart. Checked the water, didn't show any in the radiator. Put in over 2 gallons, then noticed that the overflow hose had been disconnected. Started the vehicle, white smoke (steam) came from the tailpipe. I happened to have a mechanic riding with me and he said: "Head gasket is out". Checked the radiator again, the water I put in is now nearly boiling over and gobs of oily gunk are floating to the top. Mechanic says "Cracked block".
It appears to me that PHP's owner: John Sackman of Mandan, ND purposely took this truck to the auction with the INTENT to DECEIVE the buyer by draining all but a quart or so of the radiator fluid out to conceal the fact that the engine was bad. It could not be detected easily while at the auction because there was no water to blow out from the tailpipe!
So, I contacted PHP motors, spoke with "Andy" who said he'd give the message to his boss. I asked for a response within 72 hours.
Called again today, Tuesday at approx. 4PM, Andy answered again, telling me he had informed John Sackman of our conversation.
I then contacted the ND Attorney General's office and am in process of filing a Consumer Fraud Complaint against PHP Motors and Mr. Sackman personally.
I have also contacted the North Dakota Department of Motor Vehicles and informed them of these deceptive business practices. They are going to "look into it".
Now, I have to contact my attorney to have him file a complaint in ND Small Claims Court for the price of the vehicle.
In summary, BEWARE of these people and their company---they give used car dealers a bad name!
btw, Andy informs me that PHP now means Performance Horse Power---yeah right!
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by on 09/28/2010 4:27 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: ND
One good thing about the dealer ads, you can see firsthand how ridiculously overpriced they are.  Gives you plenty of bargaining power that way.

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by on 09/29/2010 09:14 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/20/2009
Location: nd
I am happy to see businesses pay for ads on bisman...that's what lets me post ads for free!
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by on 09/29/2010 09:47 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/25/2002
Location: ND
Pat'sPlace Said:
I am happy to see businesses pay for ads on bisman...that's what lets me post ads for free!
Exactly!

Although I still get annoyed with it...until I hit the filter button :)

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by on 09/29/2010 10:38 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/15/2006
Location: ND
Former Car Dealer,
Did you look to see if there was any fluid in the radiator before you bought it? Did you check the oil before you bought it?
Did you realize there is no warranty at the car auction? Lots of JUNK gets dropped there, which is why the prices are usually low.
It sucks that you got burned, but it really is buyer beware at an auction.

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by on 09/29/2010 11:41 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2003
Location: ND
Former Car Dealer
Was in the business for 12 years and was a buyer for a dealership, never once attended an auction where I wasn't allowed to inspect a vehicle before it was ran through the ring for bidding. Low oil and no fluids in the radiator & overflow tank would have immediately made me a non-bidder.

Your chances of winning small claims court  will be much better if play average Joe vs. car dealership; if you play former car dealer vs. car dealership I'm guessing the judge will say buyer beware, you as a former car dealer should have known better. Good luck!

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by on 09/29/2010 12:53 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/10/2009
Location: ND
I don't see how it is the car dealers fault if you bought it "As is" at an auction, not actually from the dealer. There are a lot of "fixer uppers" running through Northland and they state their Warranty Policy (usually when you get your bidder number). There are a lot of dealers run their trade ins they don't think they can sell (or want to sell)through auction houses. Let us know what becomes of your lawsuit. I think many of us will be interested.

It's not that bad.

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