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Big Buddy heater question

by , Posted to on 12/14/2013 9:10 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/25/2010
Location: nd
Im looking to hook my big buddy heater to a 20lb tank. My question if i put the hose that hooks to a filter and screws into the built in regulator on the side. Will it run on high with the one hose and a 20lb. 

I was also reading that with the 12ft quick connect hose, people were noticing that the pressure was lower and the heater was not running right. It also takes a long time to get the lines purged to start the pilot

so should i use a 5ft hose with a filter,  or a 12ft quick connect with built in reg
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/14/2013 9:13 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2007
Location: ND
Big buddies on sale, Menards, $99 - I think.
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Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/14/2013 9:14 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/25/2010
Location: nd
I have the heater , I just wondering about the hoses
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/14/2013 9:51 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/25/2011
Location: nd
 it will run on high and it dose take time to get it purged. don't forget to put a inline filter on it
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/14/2013 10:03 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/12/2010
Location: ND
I have a 10 ft. hose with a filter for my big buddy heater. Fires right up. On mine I can only open the tank a little bit otherwise it will blow out the pilot.
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 07:19 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/08/2011
Location: MN
 Not sure this is the right thread, but big buddy was involved.
My friend and I went to Red Lake for eyes. Wanted to go last weekend but a couple guys bailed. Anyway, my friend bought a new "bigfoot?" clam with the therm top. Normally bring the pullovers but thought everything would fit easily in the back of a little blazer, and we'd have tons of room in that shack to fish and sleep. 

Ok, so we were able to find a place they were driving on, went out about 3/4 mile to just over 8 ft and set up. I think it was about -5 at that time of 730pm ish, on the way to -11 for a low. The big buddy got fired up, and even just getting out of the wind felt good. Coats came off, set to fish. After awhile it seemed to get a lot colder. He tried to fire up a buddy heater for a second source and would not light for the life of him. So I tried to use a lighter and "it" would not work. Figured it was broke somehow because, "it wouldnt even spark!"
I thought, oh crap, opened a door part way, stuck the lighter outside and it fired right up. I said dude this aint good! Even the vents were open. If you moved, it felt like you just did a workout, if ya tried to lay down, felt like you couldnt get enough air so breathing hard and fast so I told my buddy there's no way I'm going sleep cuz I dont think my body will keep breathing like this, so he started his blazer and we tried to catch a few winks in there, and it was no problem with the breathing. I thought maybe it was just me and I was on my way to the promised land, but he said he felt the same way, but figured a headache or illness would come with it, but it just felt like he was in high elevation. I told him try the buddy heater when you get home,.....he text me a little, Heater fired right up.
I write all this because I'm pretty sure if we'd have tried to sleep in there that night we would have never woken up. These large double hubs are fairly new, and lend themselves to doing over nighters with a simple gravity chair, and being a hub, vents, million micro holes in the stitching, zippers and ends on the 2 doors, at least "some" air coming in the bottom, one would think ventilation would be that last thing to worry about, and having multiple heat sources would be the biggest concern. Well I will mention the water came up and/or some snow and ice were melted and the bottom flaps were frozen in solid eliminating that air source. We worked a long time chipping that out the next morning.

So what happened? Why would one Big buddy in a huge large double hub take all the oxygen out, even with all vents open? Can these things burn bad to take up double or triple amounts of oxygen? He was running it off the 20lp tank, and said he had the filter on it. I did see it had 2 to 2 1/2 inches of flame coming up from the burners, and I told him I thought it shouldnt do that, none of my sunflowers do. Maybe the tank was over filled? OPD shouldnt allow that, and even so, after burning for 10 hrs it should have been fine. Can someone test them?

Thoughts? Suggestions? I thought would a candle be appropriate? Candle doesnt burn, you will? What if you were sleeping when this happen? I know we all run that risk when sleeping on the ice in shacks, but maybe some kind of alarm? I maybe are not da smartest person on da planet, but this one confuses me. Thanks for reading.
sledhead77
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 08:34 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/12/2008
Location: ND
Me thinks you are luck you didn't sleep in there that night. You said there was a two inch flame coming off the burner.... Not good. An open flame like that will definately eat up the oxygen.

Yikes!
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 09:15 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/19/2012
Location: nd
i have the big buddy with the 12 ft quick coupler hose it takes a few times with the sparker to get her started but no problem..big buddy heaters are supposed to have oxygen depletion sensors in them and a tip over sensor.. so SLEDHEAD i would say there is something seriously wrong with you heater
once i thought i was wrong but i was mistaken
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 11:53 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/10/2004
Location: SD
I have the big buddy heater and ran it off a 20 pound tank with no problems.  Pretty sure it was a 10 foot or longer hose, but I didn't buy it so can't say for sure.  It kept his 18ft travel trailer toasty enough that we had to cut it down to 1 burner once it was warmed up.
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 1:43 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/25/2007
Location: ND
guywhofishes Said:
Big buddies on sale, Menards, $99 - I think.


Sale ends today.12-15-13. just ordered it online so I didn't  have to drive to fargo.

Not all who wander are lost.

 

Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 5:01 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/18/2001
Location: ND
sloughsharkchaser Said:
Im looking to hook my big buddy heater to a 20lb tank. My question if i put the hose that hooks to a filter and screws into the built in regulator on the side. Will it run on high with the one hose and a 20lb. 

I was also reading that with the 12ft quick connect hose, people were noticing that the pressure was lower and the heater was not running right. It also takes a long time to get the lines purged to start the pilot

so should i use a 5ft hose with a filter,  or a 12ft quick connect with built in reg


I use the 12' quick connect hose with the regulator on the tank fitting.  I like it except for the hose isn't very flexible in the cold.  It does take a bit of time to purge the air out when lighting the heater for the first time.  If you decide to use the high pressure side make sure you use a filter.  If you don't you will have problems.  There is no difference in gas pressure to the heater either way, there is a built in regulator in the heater on the high side too, and the filter just catches any potential crud coming out of the hose. 

I'm going to take my 12' hose down to Cenex and have them remake it with a more flexible hose material and a swivel in the middle .

Jim Carroll  NPAA #13
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 5:37 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/01/2007
Location: ND
 Never hurts to get a CO detector. 
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 5:47 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2008
Location: ND
I have the big buddy with the 12' quick connect hose and the 20lb propane tank has a regulator on it. Do I need a filter or anything or doesn't it need one? Thanks.
 

Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 5:48 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2008
Location: ND
Jim, where is the high pressure side?
 

Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 7:31 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/24/2004
Location: ND
You need a filter. What I found after years of use is that the regulator became plug. Switched to oth we r side and now it works
Stay thirsty my friends
Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 7:39 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/22/2003
Location: ND
 I just use a hose no filter.  I do use cylinders every now and then to clean the regulators.  Big buddy has it built in.

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Re: Big Buddy heater question
by on 12/15/2013 8:37 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/18/2001
Location: ND
If you use the Mr. Heater quick disconnect hose with the regulator on the tank fitting you do not need a filter.  Here's a link:  

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Regulator-Disconnect-F271803/dp/B000UC7966/ref=sr_1_3?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1387161220&sr=1-3   

Do not use a filter with 1lb disposable bottles either.  

Use a filter with all other hose configurations.  The Big Buddy heater actually has built in regulators on both sides, with an additional direct bypass for the quick disconnect fitting (because the gas is already pressure regulated at the tank fitting- which is what I was getting at when I said high and low pressure).

Jim Carroll  NPAA #13
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