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Best Hunting Dog?

Since I already started this discussion on another thread, thought it would interesting to pose it to everyone. If you could pick one dog for upland game hunting, what would it be?

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i own a weimaraner, and he is a good all around dog. he is great at pointing, retrieving, and listens well. when i take him out he doesnt need a shock collar on and responds very well to who ever he is hunting with. Excellent dog all around. German shorthairs are not a bad choice either except they are a little more hard to control than most but have an incredible nose. with the cold though you may want to consider something with a good coat. youll have to give up one thing for another.

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I've hunted behind good examples of too many different breeds to say any one is the "best".  I like to have my hunting dog in the house and smaller dogs have proven easier in that regard.  English Cockers work well for me right now, a smallish springer would be just as good.

IME your 1st dog trains you more than you train it.  You learn what it's good at and hunt in such a manner as to play to those strengths.  More often than not, that very 1st dog is the one you will compare every subsequent dog to, and it's very rare to ever get another dog that truely measured up to your 1st one.  That's where the bias toward a particular breed or "class" e.i. pointer vs. flusher vs. retriever comes from IMO.

Pick a dog, train it well.  If a dog knows "Come", and "No", everything else is gravy and you and everyone else will very much enjoy your time behind the dog.

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I have hunted behind both good and bad examples of upland dogs. My favorite is laying at my feet while I'm typing this. She is also my profile pic.

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I own a Wirehair but have hunted with Shorthairs and Setters and would have to say thay are all good dogs. It all depends on how much time you spend training them. I have put in a lot of time with my Drahthaar and it's worth every min!!

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any colored lab

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 Horsager covered the bases well. As a guy gets older a pointer is nice because you can walk up, versus the hustle behind a flusher. Most of my field time is late season-cold weather so I went with a GWP. No regrets.

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I totally agree with horsager. It's hard to claim one as "the best"  I grew up with a lab and for obedience and retrieving the are tuff to beat. I've spent a fair amount of time behind my uncle's britts and they are very good, his really work slow when on a fresh scent and are fun to watch, but they are a little hard headed. The best performing dogs i've hunted behind was a friends 3 GSP in oklahoma, unbelievable drive and noses, but he also spent a minimum of 3-4 hrs a day working his dogs and also was able to work his dogs while guiding for a friend. I think they would have a little trouble in our N.D. decembers, Currently I have a wirehair who is doing great, she will be 2 in January, loves hunting, listens well, retrieves, and is really mild tempered.  She is only about 48 lbs, and is a great house dog which I think is important, to have your hunting dog spending all your time at home with you. This is just my .02. A good dog listens and loves to hunt that to me is a great dog.

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 I fully agree with Dick. If my dog goes on point 100 yards away, I walk over to her. No need to rush as she is solid on point.  Dogs that range out  will generally find  more birds  later in the season when the birds are wild. Running pheasants more often than not will make that fatal mistake of stopping. Dog points, I shoot, the family eats.

For a fact the best dogs are always well trained. Pointer or flusher. 

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Have any of you ever heard of a German dog called Deutsch Drahthaar Breed.

A friend of mine in Wy raiser these dogs.  I went with him once Phansent hunting in westner Ne. and they worked very well. Here is a link about the dogs and is kinda interesting.  

http://www.rogermgreen.com/drahthaar/index.php

 

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You are going to get a lot of answers here because every one has their own "perfect" breed they rely on. Here is my two cents on the subject.

Pick a breed that FITS your lifestyle or your family's lifestyle.  This is the biggest mistake I see with people who go get a dog...hunting or otherwise.  Just because your single buddy loves his GSP and you think it hunts great, it might not be the right choice for you and your family. 

I love my brittany/springer.  I will probably never shoot as many birds behind her as I have with her, however she was a great dog when I was single, young, etc..  Now that I have 2 young boys, she is a hard fit in this family.  I just can't get her out for the exercise this dog demands.  A lab is a better fit for us.  I won't get rid of my brittany/springer, but I am not going to go out and get another one at this point in my life.  Just doesnt' FIT. 

For mauser, this is a good resource for you: http://www.drahthaar.com/

20 plus yrs behind all sorts of dogs.  Mostly labs, but I have hunted with or behind some top notch pointers (Dick's is pretty darn good).  My best friend is on his second Drathaar and I am very impressed with this breed.  I also have friends with English cockers and they were pretty top notch as well.  And I shoot plenty of birds behind my springer/brittany cross.

Take your time and figured out what hunting you plan to do, what your age and health is like, and how you want to hunt (want to flush them yourself or follow a flusher around?).

BTW, last weekend my lab went on point with a rooster just under her nose and the drathaar honored the point from about 20 yards out.  Not something you see every day.

Take a kid hunting instead of hunting for your kid.

First I am a Dad, then a husband, then a hunter.  Sometimes I get the husband and hunter mixed up, but luckily my wife remembers what order they should be in. :-)

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I have hunted behind all colors of labs, springers, and english cockers.  Each dog had their strengths and weaknesses.  The labs are strong as an ox and plow through cover with shear strength and most have good noses(I grew up wth a trim 95lb lab and he had a phenominal nose).  I just picked up an english cocker and took him out pheasant hunting 2 times, the second time he outshined my expectations(good nose and hard worker @ 10 months old.  I agree with others that training is the ultimate variable.  I picked the english cocker because they are a great house dog too.  Very little shedding and managable size.

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I am fairly new the hunting dog thing but went with a GWP and love him he is awsome at pointing out birds and holding on them, He is struggling with the retrieving a little but he just turned a year old and will get it with time.  I also keep him inside all the time is not too bad to deal with being indoors.

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I am a lab guy, and love my pointing lab.  He is 60 to 65 pounds depending on the time of year.  I just got another lab that is supposed to point, and I hope she does.  I do agree on getting the dog that fits the family.  BTW both are family pets first, and hunting dogs second, as they are both in the house.
 

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I tell you boys right now - if not runnin a shorthair - your not runnin $hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am one the "elite bird dogs known to man".   Now alot of you dont have the patience to own me.   I know I can be a little bit hyper now and then - but come on now - do you want the BEST - or do you want be like the "rest".     SHORTHAIRSRUS

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Shorthairs...how did you post that pic?
 

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i would pick ndthwacker's dog koda.....she is a stud black lab...great hunter and even better dog....

I am a deer hunter, one thing about deer is they have very good vision, one thing about me is i am better at hiding then they are at vision.

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Can't find a better dog for the family or the field.  Gentle as a church mouse with my kids but a pheasant finding/flushing/retrieving machine in the field.  He knows when to "turn-it-on".  BTW, he's an English Springer Spaniel.

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When I was growing up, we always had English Setters, and I guess I'm partial to them. I love the way they hunt and they are great family dogs.

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The best dog is the one that spends it's life with you. Period! You build dreams and memories and a relationship that only you and your dog can share. You ask what the best hunting dog is? How can you answer that? How you hunt, what you hunt, where you live,inside or outside? country or town? geese or pheasants? and many other variables play into what dog is the best hunting dog for you. All I can tell you is that I wouldn't trade any I have owned for yours or any I will own in the future either! They are like family to me and part of who I am. In fact I like mine better than most of my family so don't make me choose. You will get some pretty passionate answers to this because of guys and their dog relationships and it's really kind of a personal choice that has no right answer.

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I'm a Lab fan, but the best dog is the one that has good enough breeding to have good hunting insticts, is in shape enough to hunt all day, and LISTENS enough to always be under control of it's owner.  If the dog doesn't have all three of these, it's just going to hurt you more than help you out in the field.

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Horsage hit the nail on the head.

But I always have loved my Springers.


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DDriessen,

does your springer/brit cross flush or point?

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Nanky Said:

When I was growing up, we always had English Setters, and I guess I'm partial to them. I love the way they hunt and they are great family dogs.

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 I would prefer to hunt behind either a brittany or springer spaniel, but they are only dogs I've ever had, so that plays a big part.  For those people that say brittanys are to hyper, all you have to do is spend time with them.  If your brittany is around you a lot, they seem to settle down within the first year of their life.

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 I would prefer to hunt behind either a brittany or springer spaniel, but they are only dogs I've ever had, so that plays a big part.  For those people that say brittanys are to hyper, all you have to do is spend time with them.  If your brittany is around you a lot, they seem to settle down within the first year of their life.

Horsager those are some great pictures!

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I have a yellow lab, she has a very good nose and makes a great family dog.  She is in the house year round.  Labs make good house dogs, provided you don't mind a little shedding.  Can't find a better mannered dog or one that is protective of the house and family.

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ringneckbuster Said:
Horsage hit the nail on the head.

But I always have loved my Springers.

I have no use for lap dogs. 

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I just got a Black British Lab and I hope this is the best hunting/house/family dog.  So far she has put many smiles on my face.  For a puppy I couldnt be happier with her control.  Where ever she goes her nose is on the ground, doesnt mind feathers and will do almost anything for food or praise.  Cant wait till next fall.  Sit, Stay, Come, No everything is suppose to be gravy....we will see about that.

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riverview Said:
The one laying at my feet

I agree I wouldn't trade my Chocolate Lab for anything.

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A item to consider between flushers and pointers is that with a pointer you can to some degree control the direction that the bird flushes. Which sets up an easier shot. And you have both feet on the ground when you send the dog in to make the flush.

Shooting over a dogs head rings his bells. I don't like it when it happens to me and I'm sure it is worse for your dog. If the pointer is steady sometimes you can approach from the left side, which puts the dog in the clear and the flying bird at a position from 9 to 2 o'clock. It sounds picky but the left side is best if you are right handed.

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SHORTHAIRSRUS Said:

I tell you boys right now - if not runnin a shorthair - your not runnin $hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am one the "elite bird dogs known to man".   Now alot of you dont have the patience to own me.   I know I can be a little bit hyper now and then - but come on now - do you want the BEST - or do you want be like the "rest".     SHORTHAIRSRUS

I never thought I would say this because my dad and uncles always had either yellow or black pointing labs, but I'm REALLY glad I bought a shorthair. Yeah, he is kindof a spaz sometimes, but has a great disposition, smarter than heck, actually too smart, I have to spell out words like treat, etc, good family dog, very protective, and good lookin! They don't quit either. Took him out in October with a black lab, he ran into a barbwire fence, and had tore up paws/dewclaws, and just wouldn't quit! This lab was a vet too, very good hunting background, older dog, and my dog kept right up with her.


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Springers are good all around dogs in my opinion.  Long hair (can handle cold unlike the "other" dogs).  They are a good water dog.  They are small.  Don't have badger claws for nails.  Easier hair clean up.  Good enthusiasm, good noses.  Downfall?  Like any dog, if untrained, a disaster.  And of course, cleanup after hunting but that is often easily handled with proper grooming etc.  Springers can also get a little testy when they get older.

Number one?  Pick a dog that complements your family, what kind of property you have to house your dog and the style of hunting (landscape) you hunt most often.

I like springers, therefore I will hunt over a springer.  Not to mention, you can't hunt all year long so having a dog that works good as a pet is something to strongly consider.  Unless, of course, you are a diehard hunter that doesn't have that "attachment" to your dog whereas it is a tool instead of a pet.  Not sure how many of those types are out there but you hear of those type of guys every now and then.

Many breeds are good.  It is like a Ford versus Chevy versus Dodge argument.  But choosing a dog based off your hunting style, your house and lifestyle, and family is what you should use most in determining your dog.


 

 

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gettin jiggy wit it - jiggin josh - on board!!!!!!!!wit da shorthairs!!!!!

hey I almost forgot - congrats josh on the newbyorn!!! 

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I have yet to see any dog outhunt a good german shorthair.  IF I wasn't on the road so much I would already own one, maybe 2.  I can dream can't I?

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The breed of your choice(mine is Golden Retriever) then work your pooper off and theirs on training,training,and more training!!

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 I couldn't leave this topic alone!  Even got me inspired to finally get a pic uploaded.   I just couldn't let this thread die without any mention of the glorious golden retriever!  Now, now before anyone bashes the breed too hard, remember that it's not a dog to me...she's my daughter (as my name implies), and any derogatory comments are fighting words   Anyway, they're a wonderful breed that makes a wonderful house pet (when they let you sleep in your own bed) and are tremendous as well in the field.  They do lack some of the intensity other breeds display but I've come to appreciate that as well.  Like I said, just had to give them a mention!

 

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You can find great dogs in most hunting breeds, but dog for dog the Portuguese Pointer is the most gifted upland dog and companion I have ever been around.

We raised shorthairs in the 60s and had some great dogs. I have hunted waterfowl behind some great labs with guides. But this dog is the best  I have ever hunted upland game behind- period.

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I have seen good and bad dogs in every breed so i don't judge the field performance on breed.  I currently have a short hair in my kennel but in the future all my dogs will be of a longer haired variety(setters, brittanys, etc.)  Reason being that i house dogs outside and the longer haired dogs do better and are cheaper to maintain in the cold then the short haired dogs.  With a reputable breeder i wouldn't hesitate to buy any bird dog.  But as of immediately my next pup is a english setter. 

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Thank you mom of Brandy. I will try and post my Macy's picture soon. Everybody loves a Golden Retriever.

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Shaky Jake Said:
Thank you mom of Brandy. I will try and post my Macy's picture soon. Everybody loves a Golden Retriever.

Please post that sweet pup's pic.  Not everybody loves a golden, but those are the unfortunate souls that haven't had the pleasure of hunting behind one, or living with one!  Personally, I've never met a dog I didn't like.  Now people.....     It's the people that think that a dog is nothing more than another piece of hunting equipment that really peeve me.  Kennels and stern discipline be damned!!!    P.S.    Dogs are people too!!!     
 I'm sure I've opened up a can of worms here!  Scary!   But I LOVE dogs.
  

 

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The Dingo Dog,she great with birds,tree rats,cats,mice and and deer

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German Shorthair...they are upland hunting machines!

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  I own a Weim as well and he just turned two years on Christmas day and I have been very happy with him.  Listens well for a young dog and stays in gun range virtually all of the time and has a great nose.  Also very good in the house, he was house trained by four months and has not had an accident in the house since.  Also is good with my little boy.   All dogs are great though if trained properly.  I chose the Weim for its all around hunting versatility and I think they are just a good lookin dog.  I also had hunted behind four or five of them and just fell in love with the breed, but as I said before I think all dogs are great no matter what breed and I say while we are all out tipping a few back on New Years Eve lets have a toast for our hunting buddies past and present.  Happy New Years.

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brandysmom,

Couldn't agree more with having a hunting dog be more than a tool.  They are part of the family at my house and always will be!

On a different note, I am looking seriously at this breed.  Seems intriguing to me.  Everyone has their likes and dislikes and I really like how springers  look and their size.  But I am interested to have a pointer.  The small munsterlander looks like a springer.  Kinda curious in one and might have to give them a try.

http://smallmunsterlander.org/

The downfall is I don't like the link to hip dysphasia.  Maybe I'll just stick to springers. 

I mean, how can you deny Remmy the Christmas Pooch...or the Grinch!!!!  He kinda looks like he is saying TAKE ME HUNTING YOU PRICK!!!

And we can't leave out Zoey.  She's a little cuddler but don't let it fool you!  Although I haven't taken her out yet she is a dog I have NEVER witnessed more enthusiasm and drive.  Remmy is good but she has much MUCH more.  Jury out on the best nose of the two.


 

 

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