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Best goose shotgun shell

I have a 3" 12 guage shotgun. What is the best shell out there for shooting geese long range-other then lead!! Is the old Tungsten Iron shell still made?

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Sportfish:

For the most part, that is too vague of a question. Not all loads work the same through each gun.

What kind of gun are you shooting? What choke? Length of barrel? Is this primarily for pass shooting or over decoys?

I shoot a 28" barrel on a Browning BPS. I have a patternmaster choke in it. 3" number 2's work the best with that choke and pattern the best with that choke. When I was running my IC choke, either BBB or T shot patterned the best through that particular gun.

The most correct way to find the best shell is to shoot some different loads through your gun with different chokes at different yardages. I just put some large white paper up on the gun range and shoot at the paper. You will want to get I believe 65 or more pellets in a 30" diameter.

Bring lots of paper or use a roll of butcher paper.

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in the decoys triple bbb, or bb. Pass shooting i like Ts or bbb. If there is alot of ducks coming into the decoys i always have a box of 2s with me.

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triple BBB in the decoys! wow. My preference has always been 1 shot....maybe BB later in the season.

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I like the winchester 3 in bbb's and 2's. I decoy so i like to have my first couple shots to be lighter and my 3rd to pack a punch. When ducks are involved i usually have a box of 2 3/4 4's in wichester high velocity.

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This is from another thread...

I've been shooting hevi for the last 5 years and only heavy except for upland then we still shoot lead.Forget about any of the fast steel out there nothing will/does compare to hevi.

Now with that said this new load from envirometals remaines to be seen,I did a comparison with the remington vs envro's load and on paper its about the same but lack quality in shell design as well as the shot primer(I like the nitro better) and the stats show the new stuff is a little quicker 1550fps in a 3" 11/4 load compared to remington's 1450fps.

Yeah these designer loads are more expensive but if you are a fair/good shot you will shoot alot less and cleanly kill more birds.Nothing worse than having birds come in feet down and all you get is feather's.

Ask someone who has shoot's Hevi and you'll get a story...

My .02

I would like to also add that shooting hevi is like lead meaning shoot the same loads no need to upgrade shot size.Example:#2 3"11/4 are super deadly in the benelli SBEII with a modified factory choke.

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I haven't used the new-fangled "super-shot" stuff from any manfacturer. My preference for 3" steel shot is Winchester Supreme BB's for geese out of an IC choke in an older Beretta. We nicknamed them "Black Death" after the 1st weekend of shooting them. I also use the #2 shot 3" through the IC for late season roosters when some of the refuges open up and I'm forced to use steel for upland.

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My gun id s M1 Super 90 and I have the modified choke in it. How does the hevi shot compare to Tungsten iron. When tungesten iron came out I remember seeing a sheet of metal shot at it from 50 yards and the tungsten iron penetrated it. The steel barely did anything and the lead dented it. This was at scheels. We are decoying birds, but want the reach to be able to have the third shot connect better.

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25 cents/shell or $2.50+/shell. I'd go with the cheap stuff. Get the birds close enough and you shouldnt have a problem with connecting on the 3rd shell.

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sportfish,

Hevi is made of Tungsen iron/nickel and tin,its 50% more dense than lead and 10% heavier.Enviro meatl has coupons to help soften the blow but once you shoot this stuff you won't go back to steel.

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personally I tend to think that a person should shoot whatever gives you the most confedence. If it takes $25 box of 3.5 inch shells do it but if you can do it $6-9 box of 2.75 or 3 inch shell all the more power to you. personally I have knocked down as many ducks and geese with 2.75in 2 shot or 3in 1 shot then most people have gotten with tungstenor heavyshot. Yes those premium shell do work better on body shots but if you are making head and neck shot you well do just as well with the cheaper loads. The key is practice

 

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I can buy some Tungsten iron shells for $1 a round, which is still spendy but not much more than the high grade steel shells that are out there. I also have a duck hunting tournament comeing up in a couple of weeks and if I draw a poor slough or the birds aren't decoying very well I may have to take some longer shots than normal, and I want to be prepared. Is anyone else going to the Gackle Duck Fest?

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sportfish,

The test we did years ago was with Tungsen,Bismuth and hevi @ 50yards,steel was'nt in the ballpark at this range.For down range energy Bismuth was 2nd and tung came in 3rd.

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"I also have a duck hunting tournament comeing up in a couple of weeks and if I draw a poor slough or the birds aren't decoying very well I may have to take some longer shots than normal, and I want to be prepared."

Thats exactly why there should be no competitive hunting!!!

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3 inch bb,bbb,1,2 Federal Ultrashok, Speedshok is some decent stuff.
Speedshok in duces has the same FPS as Ultrashok bbb but speedshok is cheaper.
Winchester Xpert is some of the cheapest steel shot you can buy but the steel bb's arnt round so your patterns will be messed up.

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I shoot xpert all the time in 2's and have no problem shooting birds consistently

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Froznfwl,

Sorry you took it that way. I am just looking at using a better weapon for 40-70 yard shots then using steel. Kind of like using a 30-06 instead of a .243 on a 300 yard shot on a whitetail.

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Another thought here is just use this hi-end stuff on the 2nd and/or just the 3rd shot.

For long range shots consider the "B" or better yet the "dead coyote" which is a deadly "T" shot much like the ole "4-Buck" days.

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Snow,

That is what I used to do with the Bismuth- Is that stuff still around.

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from my limited experience, if you are shooting over decoys bb or bbb steel will work fine as long as the geese are in range, if you plan on sky busting you can actually hear the pellets bounce off the geese

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Yeah bismuth is still around but dang near the same price as Hevi.Check around for remington's hevi,last years stuff is still around at a reduced price.Over dekes ducks and small honkers 4's and duces 3" 11/4oz is deadly.

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I use BBB for geese but it is a little more expensive. You could get by with BB but I like to make sure it is at least 1 1/4 ounce shot. For ducks I would go with 2 shot. If I had the money I'd buy all tungsten shot.

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How bout stop shooting at 70 yards. IMHO that is to far for steel no matter how well it patterns, and youll just end up crippling birds.

I shoot BB religiously for geese out to 40-50 yards. (50 yards is my max for geese). And ill shoot alot of 1's and 2's for close shots (fist shell). I too have never had a problem knocking stuff down at these ranges with winchester Xpert. I never liked T, as im a firm believer in more pellets versus bigger pellets. I think that getting a dozen BB's in a bird at 50 yards is much better than getting one or two T's in em.
Just my .02, your mileage may vary.