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"Best fishing days" calenders

I am sitting here in my office and looking at my wall calender. It has on it one of those pictogram coded "guide to best fishing days" for every day of the month.
2 questions: 1) Is there any validity to this and 2) how on earth do they come up with it?

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 My guess - moon phase mostly.  

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Based on moon phase and moon positions as well as the relationship to sunrise/sunset.  Full moon period with moon overhead, and especially moon underfoot, is going to me called a "major".  When you have these events close to a sunrise or sunset it's even better.  "Minors" are more with moon rise and set.  As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

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MuskyManiac Said:
Based on moon phase and moon positions as well as the relationship to sunrise/sunset.  Full moon period with moon overhead, and especially moon underfoot, is going to me called a "major".  When you have these events close to a sunrise or sunset it's even better.  "Minors" are more with moon rise and set.  As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

No shit? I would have bet it was a gimmick. Well, that solves that then. Thanks.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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I agree with them as well.  On Devils Lake if you look at the best bites they tend to be the week leading up to the full moon and the new moon.  Daily weather can change things but the tendancy is those are the best days.  The days following them are usually really slow.  There might be a fair bite on those days but nowhere near the consistency of the best days.

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I find the "best hours" to be generally good and correlate - but it could easily be all in my head too. Unless a guy gets uber-scientific about recording experiences (not FUN) then it's very hard to prove one way or the other

Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?



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 Ain't nobody got time for dat! I go fishing when I can

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Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

You can put stuff in a spread sheet and look at data that way.  Otherwise looking over your logs just gives you a general pattern after a while.  It really doesn't take long to do.


Wags86 Said:

 Ain't nobody got time for dat! I go fishing when I can

Me too, but when your on the water for 14 hours at least it gives you something to look forward to and up your concentration when you have a major/minor coming.

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MuskyManiac Said:
 

guywhofishes Said:

Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

You can put stuff in a spread sheet and look at data that way.  Otherwise looking over your logs just gives you a general pattern after a while.  It really doesn't take long to do.

sorry but just looking over your several thousand logs isn't possible

some sort of data reduction is necessary unless you have a photographic memory and an UBER-IQ



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Meelosh Said:

MuskyManiac Said:
 As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

No shit? I would have bet it was a gimmick. Well, that solves that then. Thanks.

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Ummm....not sure what you mean but I was actually thanking you for the explanation and proof that there is some valid science that actually does help some anglers catch fish. Wasn't taking a shot at your muskies.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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