"Best fishing days" calenders

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"Best fishing days" calenders

I am sitting here in my office and looking at my wall calender. It has on it one of those pictogram coded "guide to best fishing days" for every day of the month.
2 questions: 1) Is there any validity to this and 2) how on earth do they come up with it?

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 My guess - moon phase mostly.  

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Based on moon phase and moon positions as well as the relationship to sunrise/sunset.  Full moon period with moon overhead, and especially moon underfoot, is going to me called a "major".  When you have these events close to a sunrise or sunset it's even better.  "Minors" are more with moon rise and set.  As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

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MuskyManiac Said:
Based on moon phase and moon positions as well as the relationship to sunrise/sunset.  Full moon period with moon overhead, and especially moon underfoot, is going to me called a "major".  When you have these events close to a sunrise or sunset it's even better.  "Minors" are more with moon rise and set.  As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

No shit? I would have bet it was a gimmick. Well, that solves that then. Thanks.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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I agree with them as well.  On Devils Lake if you look at the best bites they tend to be the week leading up to the full moon and the new moon.  Daily weather can change things but the tendancy is those are the best days.  The days following them are usually really slow.  There might be a fair bite on those days but nowhere near the consistency of the best days.

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I find the "best hours" to be generally good and correlate - but it could easily be all in my head too. Unless a guy gets uber-scientific about recording experiences (not FUN) then it's very hard to prove one way or the other

Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

 

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 Ain't nobody got time for dat! I go fishing when I can

 

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Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

You can put stuff in a spread sheet and look at data that way.  Otherwise looking over your logs just gives you a general pattern after a while.  It really doesn't take long to do.


Wags86 Said:

 Ain't nobody got time for dat! I go fishing when I can

Me too, but when your on the water for 14 hours at least it gives you something to look forward to and up your concentration when you have a major/minor coming.

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guywhofishes Said:

Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

You can put stuff in a spread sheet and look at data that way.  Otherwise looking over your logs just gives you a general pattern after a while.  It really doesn't take long to do.

sorry but just looking over your several thousand logs isn't possible

some sort of data reduction is necessary unless you have a photographic memory and an UBER-IQ

 

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 As far as muskies go, there is certainly a relationship between these "majors" and "minors" and seeing/catching fish.

No shit? I would have bet it was a gimmick. Well, that solves that then. Thanks.

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Ummm....not sure what you mean but I was actually thanking you for the explanation and proof that there is some valid science that actually does help some anglers catch fish. Wasn't taking a shot at your muskies.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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Well then, I'm sorry and you're welcome.

Like I said, more than anything it gives us something to look forward to during a long day. There are usually two majors and two minors per day. 

There are some good apps for this out there. The problem with my Lowrance is that it doesn't show moon overhead or underfoot, just rise and set times. 

Meelosh Said:
Ummm....not sure what you mean but I was actually thanking you for the explanation and proof that there is some valid science that actually does help some anglers catch fish. Wasn't taking a shot at your muskies.

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That's why I mentioned putting info in a spreadsheet.

May seem like a lot of work but you know the saying "the harder I work the luckier I get"!

 

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MuskyManiac Said:
 

guywhofishes Said:

Johnny Candle is very disciplined and logs every day on the water. I'm sure it pays off - but I wonder how he later "mines" or makes sense of all that data?

You can put stuff in a spread sheet and look at data that way.  Otherwise looking over your logs just gives you a general pattern after a while.  It really doesn't take long to do.

sorry but just looking over your several thousand logs isn't possible

some sort of data reduction is necessary unless you have a photographic memory and an UBER-IQ

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I believe moon phases can and do have an affect on the bite.  I think the time of year and seasonal fish patterns are much more helpfull to find fish.  If you can't find fish it doesn't matter what mood they are in.  In addition, I can only really go when I have time to fish but many factors may affect where I go.

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All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

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I usually look it up the day AFTER a good or bad outing, and sure enough it almost always went dead or got good when the charts said they would.

I have iSolunar app. I always forget to use BEFORE I go!

 

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Captain Ahab Said:

  In addition, I can only really go when I have time to fish but many factors may affect where I go.

HaHa, good one Ahab. When DON'T you have time to fish?

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Anything that builds confidence is a good thing IMO.  Confidence usually results in increased patience and time on the water.  Both lend themselves to increased success.

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Here's what Joe Bucher says.....

http://www.anglerguide.com/articles/522.html

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MuskyManiac Said:
 

Captain Ahab Said:

  In addition, I can only really go when I have time to fish but many factors may affect where I go.

HaHa, good one Ahab. When DON'T you have time to fish?

I usually try to build 1-2 days of fishing into my week so I don't go insane.  So I guess, the other 5 days or so.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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#JoeBucherismyhero

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I have one of his books. Probably one of the most informative books on fishing I have ever read.

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