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Barnes Bullet

Need to do some reloading for my 7mm mag and can't decide on which to try, the TSX, Tipped TSX or the MRX. What are the pros and cons of each. I'll be reloading for a 7mm-08 and a 7 sum later. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Is price a factor because there is a big price difference between them.

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7-08, 120 TSX/TTSX and R-15 is a match made in heaven. 2950-3050 over the chrono should find a sweet spot for accuracy as well. I shoot the TSX, a pard shoots the TTSX, he tells me POI is the same. The tips theoretically should help the bullet open faster but I've no personal experience with them. The non-tipped bullets open quite well, at least down to 1900fps, that's as low and impact velocity as I've tried.

Never loaded for the bigger 7's.

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Price is not a factor if there is a benefit to a certain bullet.
Thanks for the info Horsager.

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If your buying the barnes bullets for deer or any other thin skinned game i wouldnt waste your money you really dont need them. unless thats what you want to use. just trying to save you some cash. ive never had the need for the high priced bullets myself.

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WOW Horsager wasn't the first to reply! He really likes Barnes bullets! Think he's under contract?????????

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I have shot both the tsx and the ttsx and I like them both. Loaded some 120's for my 7mm rm this summer. Didn't end up shooting anything with them this fall unfortunately. I feel a little more comfortable with the tip and larger hollow point, although I have never experienced a tsx failure myself. MRX have had some accuracy issues from what I have read...

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I don't "stump" for anyone unless I like their stuff and discovered so on my own dime. I spoke with Connie Brooks once at SCI for about 3 min right when the TSX was released, and that'd be the only contact I've ever had with them. I shoot TSX's in every rifle I hunt that's got a larger bore than .224. Haven't tried TTSX's or MRX's in anything as I've shot the TSX to 1K sans issue.

I like Leupold, Schnees, W.C. Russell, Meindle, Winchester M-70's, Leica, Zeiss, Spitfire Broadheads, Beretta 302's, 303's, 391's, and McMillan stocks too but I don't get anything for that fondness of those tools either, except predictable performance.

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horsager pretty much summed it up on his first post. I have not shot the MRX mostly because of price (MRX 7mm runs about $28.00 for 20 bullets, where the TSX and TTSX are running around $34.00 for 50 in Fargo). I shot my deer this year with my AR using 62 grain TSX and it never got out of his bed, but it was only a 20 foot shot, I think I could have killed it with a sling shot at that range. My TSX in the AR can consistantly group .5 MOA, and with the performance I hear from friends about from the original TSX and TTSX I can't see any reason to shoot the MRX.

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I'd like to read more about the 120's through the 7RM please. Velocity, accuracy and game performance. My friend's father used to load for the 7RM and said he couldn't get 120's to group into a barn. I take it you've had better results?

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Honestly I havent put enough work into developing a load but I am getting 1.5" or less at 100 yards, I cant consistently put 3 into 1" yet though but like I said, I havent worked on it much and those bullets get expensive after a while. I doubt its the bullet fault but I havent tried any other bullets in that gun yet. I did shoot some into water jugs and at close range they shed petals and go right through 3 gallon jugs. I was able to stop a couple 160TTSX out of my 338WM, shot into water jugs at about 25 yards.
160 TTSX

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Here is a picture of a 257gr TSX shot out of my muzzloader recovered from the berm at 100 yards after some rain, it was muddy but I dug the sucker out! Also a 85gr TSX shot into a doe with my 243, quartering towards at about 80 yards, recovered under skin of back ham.
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275gr out of my muzzleloader, not 257... :P

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Those are good pictures Lycan.

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Hey BJ. what is the twist on your AR? I've been looking at those 62 grainers, but I don't think my twist is fast enough.

Good pics Lycan! I recently saw pics of a couple of 250 or 300 grain TSX's recovered by a buddy after a 'voyage of discovery' through a cape buffalo and they looked just like those pics, only they had cape buffalo blood in the crevices! LOL
I still haven't been able to recover any TSX's myself.
The last couple of boxes of 85 grain tsx's in .243 bought locally here in Bis were around $28.00 for 50. About the same as any premium bullet. There's lots of good bullets out there to choose from, though.
Not like when I started to reload. Back then if you wanted a tough dependable you basically had a choice of the Partition or the Partition! Maybe one or two others....(silvertip and core-loct which were considered 'premium' back then but average now) And back then the Noslers weren't produced as well either - if you looked closely the lead showing in the base of a partition often varied a bit from one bullet to the next. Probably not as accurate as the modern ones, though we couldn't tell the difference anyway. A 1 MOA rifle was some kid of a 'holy grail' you might read about from the outdoor writers or bench rest crowd but for us mortals as long as you could hit the 'pie plate' at 150 - 200 yards, that was plenty good enough! LOL

One other observation to those who complain of high prices for premium bullets. When I remember what a box of premium bullets like the Partitions cost back in the late '60's and early '70's and adjust them for inflation to 2008, they actually cost a bit more than than 2 - 3 times MORE than the current price! (they were around $20 a box of 50)Using the same argument Shot shells (way cheaper) and a lot of other hunting equipment actually are a lot cheaper, too! And the quality and dependability is probably better nowadays, although not always....Gas in 1970 cost equivalent to give or take around $3.10 depending on whose numbers you believe!
Yup, for game and hunting and fishing equipment THESE are the 'good old days' right now! LOL
Not trying to hijack the topic....Just sitting here thinking how good we have things!!

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bobkat,

My barrel is a 16" SS, BB, with a 1 in 8" twist. I'm using 24.5 grains of ramshot TAC w/ the 62 gr TSX. I'm getting 2767 FPS on average from it which may seem a liitle slow (I attribute that to the short barrel. I also seat my bullets to the max length that my magazines will allow and function properly.

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Those are some sweet pics.

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Extremely cool pics. Talk about consistent performance...When you get a pet load worked out for the 110's, I'd like to read about it.

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