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Accurate .223 Distances?

by , Posted to on 02/18/2008 8:18 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I just recently bought a new Remington 700 SPS Varmint in the .223 I was just wondering how far this gun should accurately shoot. It came with a 6x24x42 Barska Mil-Dot scope. I know that its not a high end scope but it will do for now. I was also wondering if anyone could explain the use of the mil-dot scope. Thanks
Re: Accurate .223 Distances?
by on 02/18/2008 8:24 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2008
Location: ND
Sorry about the Mil-dot thing. I didnt see the thread posted just a few below mine.
Re: Accurate .223 Distances?
by on 02/18/2008 8:36 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
For the Mil-Dot, google "Mildot Master" and just order one, it'll be the best $35 you can spend learning ballistics.

The 223 shooting bulk 50 or 55gn ammo like Ultramax etc. is a 350-400yd rifle in the hands of most shooters. A handloader or prolific and proficient shooter can easily double that range, effectively. Like nearly anything else, it comes down to practice. For comparison's sake, here's how my 223/22-250 compare with my handloads for both. The 223 sighted dead-on @ 200yds with a 50gn V-max @ 3300 will drop and drift about 5.5" more than a 22-250 sighted dead on @ 200 and shooting a 55gn Ballistic tip @ 3700.

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by on 02/18/2008 8:53 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Thanks for the info. What do you think of the 700 SPS Varmint? I have a 700 .257 and I like it. So I figured that I couldnt go wrong with a remington. I am not much of a rifle man but am interested in become proficient at 400-500 yards. Any info that I can get about long range shooting is wonderful.
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by on 02/18/2008 9:01 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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You'd like that SPS Varmint a ton-load better if you chopped 5"-6" off the barrel, other than that they're a good machine. 400 is a walk in the park, 500 the wind starts it's voodoo, the difference is stammering but nothing prolific practice can't negate.

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by on 02/18/2008 11:32 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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If you shoot out to 500 use a bullet with a high Ballistic Coefficent to buck the wind. What are you going to shoot at 400 - 500 yds?
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by on 02/19/2008 01:18 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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goin to shoot some insurgents ;)
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by on 02/19/2008 08:26 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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if you havn't already, check out youtube, "223 long range", hitting target at over 800, not a tight group or anything, give you a better idea of it's potential. I'll personally say, that a 223 with high end factory loads can be shot accurately out to 550. I have a bushmaster varminter, even with the lower end ammo have hit quite a few prairie dogs over 400 yards, just depends on what you consider accurate I guess.
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by on 02/19/2008 10:09 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The Mil-dot Master is for pu$$ys! (wink)

There are two basic functions of a mil-dot reticle. Use of mils for holdover of elevation and windage and range estimation. This will be the quick explanation.

Down and dirty, 1 MOA is roughly 1

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Re: Accurate .223 Distances?
by on 02/19/2008 11:25 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I need to add that holdovers and range estimation only works on a designated power level for a second focal plane scope. Most variable power scopes are second focal plane. The power level that is usually needed to be used is the highest power level on your scope.

For instance, my NXS (a 2nd focal plane scope) is a 5.5-22 power. Holdovers and range estimation only works on 22 power. Remember that because if you

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by on 02/19/2008 11:33 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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NXS, your mil-dots will work @ 5.5x & 11x too, instead of 1mil they'll be 4mils and 2mils. Cut the power in half, double the subtension values.

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by on 02/19/2008 12:55 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Very true, you really want to confuse the guy now don't ya? :)

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by on 02/19/2008 3:56 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Thanks guys. This has been very helpful. As to what Im going to be shooting out that far... not really sure I have just always been interested in being able to do it and have just finally bought a new rifle and found the ambition to start hitting the range.
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by on 02/20/2008 6:15 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Horsager,
I was wondering why you said that I would like this rifle better if I chopped 5"-6" off the barrel.
Re: Accurate .223 Distances?
by on 02/20/2008 6:27 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Because 20"-21" gets you all the performance you're going to get from a 223 and is much handier than 26"

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by on 02/20/2008 6:40 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I figured that you were thinking along the lines of ease of use/carrying. I was just curious. You seem like a pretty educated man, just trying to figure this whole thing out.
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