9 year old hunting pheasants and ducks.

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9 year old hunting pheasants and ducks.

Is it true a 9 year old can hunt pheasants, grouse, ducks and geese without hunterssaftey? If so what does he/she need to do so?

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Being under the age to take hunter safety classes, the youngster needs to have the proper licenses-general, small game-and be accompanied in the feild by a parent or guardian.

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papabear Said:
Is it true a 9 year old can hunt pheasants, grouse, ducks and geese without hunterssaftey? If so what does he/she need to do so?

Not a good idea. One mistake and lives will be changed forever.

Wonderful Reagan quote that says it like it is! "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

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my now 10 year old has been shooting pheasant, geese, ducks for 3 years now.   I trust him with a shotgun more then most adults.    just my .02

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papabear Said:
Is it true a 9 year old can hunt pheasants, grouse, ducks and geese without hunterssaftey? If so what does he/she need to do so?

Not a good idea. One mistake and lives will be changed forever.

You do realize the average age of the shooter in hunting accidents in ND last year was 34 years old, right?

No, you probably didn't, otherwise you wouldn't be making such stupid comments.

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Bowhuntin Said:

hopeandchangethis Said:

papabear Said:
Is it true a 9 year old can hunt pheasants, grouse, ducks and geese without hunter safety? If so what does he/she need to do so?

Not a good idea. One mistake and lives will be changed forever.

You do realize the average age of the shooter in hunting accidents in ND last year was 34 years old, right?

No, you probably didn't, otherwise you wouldn't be making such stupid comments.

That's because 9 year olds do not drink. How was that stupid. I have seen some 9 year olds that have no clue. I was just trying to prevent a possible nightmare. Good day.

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I started hunting at age 7.  It basically boils down to the maturity level at a given age.  there are 20 years olds that shouldn't be near a gun.  there are 10 year olds that are safer to be around than some adults. 

 

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That's because 9 year olds do not drink.

Are you saying all or the majority of accidents involving older people involved alcohol? 

You can't aim a duck to death.

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Isn't hunters safety what a dad teaches their young one starting with pop guns, then to BB guns and so on?  My boys started young and we shoot clay birds alot and they are very safe.

My older boy went through hunters safety in Steele three years ago because Bismarck was full or something.  It was a  two day class and they ran the local boys through  without even having to past the test legitimately, what good was hunters safety to them any way?

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I thought the earliest you could start hunting upland and waterfowl was 11? 9 is to young in my opinion. 9 is bb gun age.

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BB  thats what we use on the geese through the 12ga

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My son and his friend started at 8 yrs. old, I wouldn't change a thing, we had alot of
fun . These guys are now 20 yrs. old and are good hunters and good workers

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The kids under 12 only need the certificate and the General Game & Habitat stamp. 

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I am a certified hunters safety instructor and will tell you that most 9-12 year olds should only be hunting under very controlled situations. The majority of them are not mature or capable of handling the opportunities in the field safely!!!   Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!  I understand that some children are more mature than others, they just haven't had all the experiences in the field to be safe in all situations, especially pheasant hunting.  I know I don't want to be walking side by side ten yards apart in a CRP field with a 9 year old holding a shotgun when a rooster gets up between us!!   It's really up to the parent to put them in a situation that is safe for everybody and that they can control so the child can learn to be a safe and responsible hunter. The parent also needs to understand this will probally severely limit their opportunities in the field when they are out with the youth!

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9 yrs. is definitely not too old to start hunting.  The important thing is to make them familiar with the gun with lots of practice emphasizing safety.  Another thing, don't  take him/her out with a large group, especially at first.  Start out taking them hunting in a 1 on 1 environment.  It's safer and will probably be more enjoyable for them.  My dad started taking me out duck hunting when i was 3 and let me carry a shotgun when I was 7 and developed good firearm safety at an early age under his guidance.  Also, make it fun for them and they'll probably be hooked forever.  Good luck!

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BringingTheRain Said:
I thought the earliest you could start hunting upland and waterfowl was 11? 9 is to young in my opinion. 9 is bb gun age.

Good Man!

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I am a certified hunters safety instructor and will tell you that most 9-12 year olds should only be hunting under very controlled situations. The majority of them are not mature or capable of handling the opportunities in the field safely!!!   Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!  I understand that some children are more mature than others, they just haven't had all the experiences in the field to be safe in all situations, especially pheasant hunting.  I know I don't want to be walking side by side ten yards apart in a CRP field with a 9 year old holding a shotgun when a rooster gets up between us!!   It's really up to the parent to put them in a situation that is safe for everybody and that they can control so the child can learn to be a safe and responsible hunter. The parent also needs to understand this will probally severely limit their opportunities in the field when they are out with the youth!

Finally a voice of reason!

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Doesn't get any better then this guys!!!!My 9 year old has been hunting with me since he has been four years old.  This is the first year that he has been able to shoot.  He lives for it.  He is only allowed to goose hunt at this age which is in a controlled setting. I have had guys (actually friends) that i have hunted with for many years always ask when he was younger why i always bring him along.  They always said cant we just go.  Let me put it this way i no longer hunt with them.  My time with my son spent in the outdoors is way more important to me than anything.  he is learning responsibility and not just being a bump on a log sitting in front of the tv.  He has also gotten his first goose on the last day of early season this year and gotten three since.  and got two ducks on his first duck hunt.  Also the early kids season.  thanks ndgnf for giving these kids the oppurtunity to get up off there butts ad do something with there lives that wil teach them responsibility.  These are just my two cents.

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hopeandchangethis Said:

papabear Said:
Is it true a 9 year old can hunt pheasants, grouse, ducks and geese without hunterssaftey? If so what does he/she need to do so?

Not a good idea. One mistake and lives will be changed forever.

Each kid has a different level of maturity.   When would you propose getting kids involved?    I tagged along at a young age starting with an unloaded bb gun then a loaded bb gun then a .22lr.     I never shot game birds but it was good practice for safety etc and I'd be allowed to shoot at small game and safe targets.   

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Doesn't get any better then this guys!!!!My 9 year old has been hunting with me since he has been four years old.  This is the first year that he has been able to shoot.  He lives for it.  He is only allowed to goose hunt at this age which is in a controlled setting. I have had guys (actually friends) that i have hunted with for many years always ask when he was younger why i always bring him along.  They always said cant we just go.  Let me put it this way i no longer hunt with them.  My time with my son spent in the outdoors is way more important to me than anything.  he is learning responsibility and not just being a bump on a log sitting in front of the tv.  He has also gotten his first goose on the last day of early season this year and gotten three since.  and got two ducks on his first duck hunt.  Also the early kids season.  thanks ndgnf for giving these kids the oppurtunity to get up off there butts ad do something with there lives that wil teach them responsibility.  These are just my two cents.

this right here is exactly what hunting is really about. 

 

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3X - "Each kid has a different level of maturity. "  

Absolutely!   Also different 9 year old had diffferent levels of previousl firearm training and experience by their parents, ranging from nil to darned competent.

Under appropriate situations my kids stater at ?9 or 10?  sitting beside me in a duck blind or sneaking turkeys with unloaded guns till ready to shoot, etc.  My kids and now my grandsons loaded all kinds fo shells at that age, too, with supervision of course.

No one should just give a kid a gun and say "have at it!" with little or no training or supervision.   I think we all agree on that!  But there's no magic age.   Every kid and hunting situation  is different.

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Thanks eyexer.  Buying his first gun.................. good.  Teaching him to shoot it.............. great.  The look on his face when he got his first goose...................PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hopeandchangethis you're the definition of why kids are  growing up like pussies in front of the computer and video games and not getting outside and learning real life skills.  I'm sick of people who also think they know what's best for other peoples children.  It's up to the parents, and learning outdoor skills is a great thing.

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 As many of you have  known and seen on FB my son started hunting at age 7 with a spring turkey hunt which is about as controlled environment as you can get. Later that fall he shot his first limit of pheasants and geese. This year at age 11 he passed his hunters safety course and is now looking forward to next falls youth doe hunt. Would I do this again yes in a heart beat.

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My boy (8) has been coming along pheasant hunting since he was 5, 1st year just walked with us and carried the birds, 2nd year carried a kiddie bow and carried the birds, last year a BB gun and carried the birds. He always finishes the walks and is getting into the hunt. This year he got his 1st 410, have been target shooting with 22 for 2 years. We have been shooting targets with the 410 at deer camp and he brought it out to the duck blind last week end. Never shot a bird but is pretty pumped about the whole deal,  he will not be carrying the 410 pheasant hunting yet. like many have said differant kids have differant maturity levels and its the parents job to judge this. I am sure there are many 8 & 9 year olds that are capable of hunting safely but i sure hope that this would not be thier 1st trip out to the field with a loaded shot gun. With the proper training and the right kid I'm sure it would be a great experience.

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tearbear Said:

I am a certified hunters safety instructor and will tell you that most 9-12 year olds should only be hunting under very controlled situations. The majority of them are not mature or capable of handling the opportunities in the field safely!!!   Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!  I understand that some children are more mature than others, they just haven't had all the experiences in the field to be safe in all situations, especially pheasant hunting.  I know I don't want to be walking side by side ten yards apart in a CRP field with a 9 year old holding a shotgun when a rooster gets up between us!!   It's really up to the parent to put them in a situation that is safe for everybody and that they can control so the child can learn to be a safe and responsible hunter. The parent also needs to understand this will probally severely limit their opportunities in the field when they are out with the youth!

Man, that's some scary shit right there! I'm also a certified hunter educator and have no problem at all going out in the field with kids whom I've instructed. I"ve found them to be a hell of a lot safer than some of the adults who never had hunter education.

If you are truly serious about your comment "Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!" I'd advise you to take a long hard look at your classroom and hands on teaching skills. Seriously. There are some bad hunters out there, and probably are some bad instructors as well. Anyone who says they wouldn't hunt with a kid who has just passed their class has me shaking my head in disbelief!!    

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Regardless of the age of my hunting companions, I keep an eye on them for my own safety.  I would have to agree with the philosophy that there is no magic age for maturity, nor do I think there is a magic age for who I don't keep an eye on.

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Took my 8 year old out shooting yesterday. She is so fun to watch, accurate, and a dead-eye with the .22 pistols. Woke up this morning and she wanted to go out shooting the bows for a while. The together time with all of my kids is a dream come true, but each one is their own person, and each one has progressed differently when it comes to shooting guns and bows. I have always gone the extra mile with each of them when it comes to safety, and proud to watch all of them progress with their skills! Teaching them young is a plus, but remember they also learn from what they see you doing as well!!!

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The thing about kids is that if you instill the safety aspect into them they take it very seriously.  The older people are the more lax they become till they reach a certain age then it seems to reverse.  The most dangerous people are those that have done something so long they tend to become too comfortable.  They then forget and that turns into a bad deal. 

 

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AMEN Eyexer and Bowhuntin and some others! 
I'm a hunter ed guy too, and after the class written test and practical exam we often joke that these kids, girfriends and wives are probably the safest hunters out there.  Till they hunt with some of their parents or husbands or boyfriends, etc. then learn sloppy or dangerous gun habits, and too often slobby behavior, too!  
I don't think age has anything to do with it, except that as we get older we tend to get too familiar with it and complacent, like Eyexer said.

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killemngrillem Said:
hopeandchangethis you're the definition of why kids are  growing up like pussies in front of the computer and video games and not getting outside and learning real life skills.  I'm sick of people who also think they know what's best for other peoples children.  It's up to the parents, and learning outdoor skills is a great thing.

How do you know how I raise my kids? they are in the great outdoors all the time. They will not hold a shotgun at age 9.You can raise your children how you see fit. You need to chill.

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I am a certified hunters safety instructor and will tell you that most 9-12 year olds should only be hunting under very controlled situations. The majority of them are not mature or capable of handling the opportunities in the field safely!!!   Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!  I understand that some children are more mature than others, they just haven't had all the experiences in the field to be safe in all situations, especially pheasant hunting.  I know I don't want to be walking side by side ten yards apart in a CRP field with a 9 year old holding a shotgun when a rooster gets up between us!!   It's really up to the parent to put them in a situation that is safe for everybody and that they can control so the child can learn to be a safe and responsible hunter. The parent also needs to understand this will probally severely limit their opportunities in the field when they are out with the youth!

Man, that's some scary shit right there! I'm also a certified hunter educator and have no problem at all going out in the field with kids whom I've instructed. I"ve found them to be a hell of a lot safer than some of the adults who never had hunter education.

If you are truly serious about your comment "Actually you should probally increase that age to 16 years old!!!" I'd advise you to take a long hard look at your classroom and hands on teaching skills. Seriously. There are some bad hunters out there, and probably are some bad instructors as well. Anyone who says they wouldn't hunt with a kid who has just passed their class has me shaking my head in disbelief!!    

Classroom instruction gives these kids a solid base to work from. Being safe in a classroom situation and being safe during the excitement in the field in uncontrolled situations are two totally different scenerios. It's up to the parent to give them these experiences under controlled situations until the person is able to handle them, you can then move up to more complex situations as they prove they are ready! Sitting  with a child together over a turkey decoy or duck decoys where you can maintain control is a different situation then putting a gun in their hands for the first time in a field with other hunters and birds flushing wildly!!!! There was a child killed last year by Dickinson in this exact scenerio!!! Do you think this child was ready??  I don't think so!!!

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bobkat Said:
AMEN Eyexer and Bowhuntin and some others! 
I'm a hunter ed guy too, and after the class written test and practical exam we often joke that these kids, girfriends and wives are probably the safest hunters out there.  Till they hunt with some of their parents or husbands or boyfriends, etc. then learn sloppy or dangerous gun habits, and too often slobby behavior, too!  
I don't think age has anything to do with it, except that as we get older we tend to get too familiar with it and complacent, like Eyexer said.

I agree with you. After age 11 or 12 when they have completed hunter safety.

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Noone has answered my question. Can a 9 year old hunt pheasants and geese with an license? If so what does the child need???

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We do a youth hunt for waterfowl every year and this year we allowed 11 year olds that have had hunter safety, granted this is alittle different situation than a 9 year old without hunter safety but as long as you spend the time with the kids and make sure that you pay attention to what they are doing and not on you hunting i beleive you will be fine.  Keep them out of large groups and go through the safe shooting lanes and other possible safety issues with him when you get there.  Start him young and you'll have a hunter for life.  We had youth going waterfowl hunting with us this year and missing hunting for deer for their youth tags.  From what i've found the youth are some of the better hunters to be around, they are so worried that they will mess up and you won't take them with again that they are for the most part extra careful.  3 years of youth waterfowl weekends and so far the only accident was a shot up robo duck.

If you feel the kid is ready to be hunting take him with just you and don't even take a gun with for yourself.  It's not about getting birds but just getting out. 

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papabear:

All we the youth waterfowl hunters needed i believe was the little yellow slip that is like $2, the general game and habitat license and their HIP number and adult supervision.  Might need small game for pheasants but i don't think so for waterfowl.  The game and fish's website will tell you.

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murrdogg,
If you ever need help with that youth hunt let me know

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Thanks for the offer I'll keep it in mind so far we've had enough help but as the word spreads of the hunt and new youth become interested we may need some help. This year we had 11 youth shooters hunting and we had two groups that killed somewhere around 30 ducks and 3 geese. That hunt is probably the funnest duck hunt I will go on every year.

So I guess my opinion is whether the hunter is 9 or 30 take him/her out and I bet you'll never forget the hunt and they'll never forget it either.