mauserG33-40 Said:
Would a potical 3rd party now be able to put poeple in office?  Not just the WH but in both houses?    The WH is a complete failure,and both houses are working hard to get there with the WH can a 3rd party be the answere? I know we have the Tea Party but in the end how much difference did they really make? 

some good jokes, and minimal awareness.

Leave it up to mauser to blanden up the party...

N o way will a third party get in,all you would be doing is assuring the messiah another 4 years ,and I don't think we can handle that.

Coming up with a good name for their party would be a great help.  "Tea" party is just stupid, and someone calling themselves an "Independent"  sort of labels them as a lone wolf.

Why hasn't someone started the "American" party yet?

mauserG33-40 Said:
Would a potical 3rd party now be able to put poeple in office?  Not just the WH but in both houses?    The WH is a complete failure,and both houses are working hard to get there with the WH can a 3rd party be the answere? I know we have the Tea Party but in the end how much difference did they really make? 

only way is if some big name jumps ship and he/she would need a lot of big bucks like maybe big oil money and a 3-4 yr head start.
Ron Paul is too old .  If someone dares to put up with the trash digging they would win  or maybe a 20 yr IRS audit some of the trash diggers will go back to 1th grade and say you cried and then you would have to prove why.

I'd rather see the party affiliates disappear altogether.  That would force people to pay more attention to their candidates and research their voting history.  they're all from the same party now, there's just extremists going both directions.

ggenthusiast Said:
Coming up with a good name for their party would be a great help.  "Tea" party is just stupid, and someone calling themselves an "Independent"  sort of labels them as a lone wolf.

Why hasn't someone started the "American" party yet?

because people have wildly diferant veiws of America.

mauserG33-40 Said:
Would a potical 3rd party now be able to put poeple in office?  Not just the WH but in both houses?    The WH is a complete failure,and both houses are working hard to get there with the WH can a 3rd party be the answere? I know we have the Tea Party but in the end how much difference did they really make? 

I think this time is coming, and way overdue. I would welcome a third party with open arms so long as they arent controlled bye big money corporations. The system we have now is doomed. I cannot hardly stand to talk politics anymore because it is all based on lies and money. 

Kaptain Said:

mauserG33-40 Said:
Would a potical 3rd party now be able to put poeple in office?  Not just the WH but in both houses?    The WH is a complete failure,and both houses are working hard to get there with the WH can a 3rd party be the answere? I know we have the Tea Party but in the end how much difference did they really make? 

I think this time is coming, and way overdue. I would welcome a third party with open arms so long as they arent controlled bye big money corporations. The system we have now is doomed. I cannot hardly stand to talk politics anymore because it is all based on lies and money. 

For once I agree 100% with you.   So far this last year in Washington on both sides make me want to replace everyone of them.  I know that can't happen but a 3rd party would help   .

You all do know that there are many different political parties active in the U.S., right? Not only are there the R's and D's, but Libertarian, Socialist, Communist, Reform, and Green parties to name just a few.

What they are all lacking is a dose of reality.

eyexer Said:
I'd rather see the party affiliates disappear altogether.  That would force people to pay more attention to their candidates and research their voting history.  they're all from the same party now, there's just extremists going both directions.

  I have thought that all along too.   What ever happened to the NPL ?     Did they fizzle out from lack of support ?   

Geothermal Said:

eyexer Said:
I'd rather see the party affiliates disappear altogether.  That would force people to pay more attention to their candidates and research their voting history.  they're all from the same party now, there's just extremists going both directions.

  I have thought that all along too.   What ever happened to the NPL ?     Did they fizzle out from lack of support ?   

isn't it the Democratic-NPL?

 

eyexer Said:
I'd rather see the party affiliates disappear altogether.  That would force people to pay more attention to their candidates and research their voting history.  they're all from the same party now, there's just extremists going both directions.

Agree 100%, when people go vote all names are in one box for said position with no R or D behind names for the sheep to look for

Good or Bad something different


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45782222/ns/politics-decision_2012/

Lane Said:
N o way will a third party get in,all you would be doing is assuring the messiah another 4 years ,and I don't think we can handle that.

That is for sure,  If trump decides to get in Obama would be a shoe in...

I don't blame trump.  The republicans just aren't getting their crap together.  I think Trump would do this to get the republicans to get back to the parties fundamental philosophies.  Not the liberal middle of the road tactics they're trying to use now.

eyexer Said:
I don't blame trump.  The republicans just aren't getting their crap together.  I think Trump would do this to get the republicans to get back to the parties fundamental philosophies.  Not the liberal middle of the road tactics they're trying to use now.

Then he should get in now as a Republican and try to win that.. if he gets in as an independent and we have 3 to chose from on Nov 2 Obama wins because Trump would split the republican voters  The Dems will vote Obama even if they know it is the wrong thing to do.

rezleb Said:

eyexer Said:
I don't blame trump.  The republicans just aren't getting their crap together.  I think Trump would do this to get the republicans to get back to the parties fundamental philosophies.  Not the liberal middle of the road tactics they're trying to use now.

Then he should get in now as a Republican and try to win that.. if he gets in as an independent and we have 3 to chose from on Nov 2 Obama wins because Trump would split the republican voters  The Dems will vote Obama even if they know it is the wrong thing to do.

I think you've missed my point.  He has been telling the republicans they need to get headed down the conservative path.  None of the front runners have given any indication they are willing to do that.  So trump is basically saying screw it then, I'll run so Obama wins just to get the dip sticks to pay some attention to what the nation wants and needs.  He doesn't want to get elected.  He just wants a staunch conservative to win or else Obama may as well stay in the white house. 

 Until people realize that we have 2 parties that serve ONE corporatocracy, and solemnly swear never to cast another vote for a R or a D again above the state level, nothing will change.  


The system is rotten to the core, the electoral college, unconstitutional judicial precedent and and a monetary system (federal reserve) only acting to keep it propped up.  

The seeds have been sown and the day of reckoning is soon arriving where it will no longer be "cooks" who speak of North Dakota succession.

 

eyexer Said:
I don't blame trump.  The republicans just aren't getting their crap together.  I think Trump would do this to get the republicans to get back to the parties fundamental philosophies.  Not the liberal middle of the road tactics they're trying to use now.

Eye
I know Romney is middle of the road moderate but your saying all the rest of the R's are running to the liberal side, I wonder if they know this lol

Trump won't run he's just stroking his ego again as he's all for using other people's money to his advantage and if he's going to make a decision in May he'll have to finance campaign with his own coin and that's not going to happen
The person the R's will have to worry about if he doesn't win the nomination is Ron Paul, if he decides to run as a 3rd party candidate the R's are toast, maybe they will offer him a cabinet position to stay out if he doesn't win nomination