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300 WIN MAG ammo?

by , Posted to on 03/05/2008 10:40 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/28/2002
Location: ND
I just bought a new ruger 300. Wondering what ammo for whitetail, 150 gr or 180 gr? Also I do not plan to reload.
Where's my bobber?
Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 10:45 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
stay away from Nosler Ballistic tip or similar construction bullets IMHO, they will blow a hole the size of Montana in a deer.
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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 10:55 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/03/2007
Location: ND
Buy 4 or 5 or 6 or however many different boxes you can afford. Every rifle shoots every round just a little different. It's just a matter of what your rifle likes. Try a bunch of different kinds. I hope your wallet is fat! ;)

Before I reloaded I use to have real good results with Winchester Supreme 180 grn. ballistic tips in my Ruger M77 MKII.

To be extremely honest, for whitetails, it really doesn't matter what bullet you shoot out of a 300 mag. They're going to go down and going to go down fast if you hit them right. Hell, even a marginal hit will take out a whitetail!

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 11:04 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
Almost all of the time anyway. I did see a fella shoot a standing WT doe at 200-250 yds. We all thought he missed and gave him crap as she ran over the hill about 3 seconds after he shot.

About an hour later I came across the same doe as we were completing the walk. Half of her liver was hanging out the far side and the shot placement would normally have been considered pretty decent if it weren't for the fact she was still alive. She must have had some really thick blood to not have bled out long before I came across her. Maybe she had eaten a box of stop-leak earlier that day?

We were all amazed. Not to mention we had to rescind some of our earlier criticism of his shooting.

Other than this one example, I have no problem with the 300. Other than it's bark and shoulder bite.
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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 11:07 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Thanks, is 180 gr. an over kill for whitetail? For long shots is there a big difference between the 2?
Where's my bobber?
Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 11:36 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/11/2002
Location: ND
I shot 165gr. accubonds out of my 300wsm this year and they worked great. If i couldn't go with the 165's i'd go with 180's in a premium bullet such as a accubond, interbond, or barnes X. I prefer the heavier bullets over a light bullet and i believe they actually kill better with less ruined meat than a lighter poor constructed bullet. Also found that most 300's that i've been around are more accurate with the 165gr. and above bullets. Also a benefit of the heavy bullet is you don't have to change if you go on a big game hunt.

murrey
Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 12:10 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/03/2007
Location: ND
In general the 300 mag is overkill for deer no matter what bullet you're using. IMO

Don

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/05/2008 1:23 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
My Dad and I both use 300 mags for deer. Fortunately, I have been able to handload to tune it more appropriate for deer (as well as lower cost). I have shot deer with everything from 125 grain up to 200 grain. The heavy slugs provide little advantage, as they go through and hardly open up. They have too thick of a jacket for the most part. Also have to agree with not using the ballistic tip. They are nice for keeping the tip of the slug true when you load/unload, but are more expensive and most of the time do more damage and ruin meat. I found a good solid 150 grain soft tip works well. I handload 168 gr. or 165 grain match slugs. Although a strange choice, those have worked quite well for my gun and situation. I recommend finding something that shoots best in your gun, and going with it. No need to go over 150 grain.
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by on 03/05/2008 8:47 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Jigman, can I have your brass?

Pick a load your rifle shoots well, any factory 300Win offering is plenty for whitetails.

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 08:43 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Ok... I have fought with the same questions for the last 20 years. I have shot 150 grain bullets of every kind. 165 grain of every kind. Even had some 135 grain made that shot all over the place. I have taken over 50 whitetail and mule deer bucks plus a few doe's (yes I travel and hunt out of state so don't call me a poacher) Here is my conclusion.
Stay away from ballistic tips or the fail safe from Winchester. It actually have them, at less than 200 yards, go right through the animal and leave a little hole so they had to be shot again. Granted I did not hit any bones on the shots. Next stick with a 180 or 200 grain. The 300 was made to shoot these rounds and it is the round they shoot the best. Plain and simple. That 15 or 30 grains less makes a few inches in drop difference at your long range shots, which basically is nothing. The 180 will shoot straighter as well in the wind. No matter what when you hit a bone you make a big hole. I went to shooting basically shooting a soft point bullet because at 100 yards it expands and leaves a hole. I switched to a Remington Cora lot Ultra bullet blah blah blah. Only had a doe tag
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by on 03/06/2008 09:15 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/27/2007
Location: ND
Everybody has their opinions! That is good in this case. In my 257 and 7mm mag I use nothing but balistic tips. As in other forums about what caliber for what game, everyone always says it is about bullet placement. I agree, with proper bullet placement I have never had an issue with the size of holes balistic tips have produced.
I shot a moose in canada once with a 225 grain partition out of my .338 did not hit a rib, did not expand. Moose folded up 50 yards into the big timber.
In short go with what every shoots well in your rifle and put it bahind the shoulder!
Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 09:21 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Or shoot a TSX and shoot shoulders, on everything.

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by on 03/06/2008 09:57 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Comparing skin-off carcasses all shot with TSX's from 50-500yds, calibers 243Win, 270Win, 7-08Rem and 300Win, it's impossible to tell what carcass was taken with what caliber solely via wound channel examination.

The TSX is peerless save maybe the TTSX or MRX.

That said, you certainly don't need that much bullet for deer but as I said earlier, I'm a 1 rifle, 1 load shooter. For me the 300Win is an elk rifle, I do on occasion use it as a backup deer rifle, with the same loads I shoot for elk, the deer don't complain.

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by on 03/06/2008 10:03 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The TSX bullet has people thinking the

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 10:32 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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150 or 165 or 180.... you will still hit them hard so why not use the 180 which the 300 was made to shoot. Every caliber shoots a certain grain better and for the 300 it is not a light bullet.
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by on 03/06/2008 10:54 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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168 TSXs shoot better in my 300 than 200 TSXx or even 180 ballistic tips.

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by on 03/06/2008 4:16 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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This is a humorous discussion. NXS, don't go ruining things now, I'm paying slack.

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 4:57 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
The .300 mag is not enough gun for whitetails! Like the .243 the bullets bounce right off!
Horsager, are you a rep for Barnes? Aha, now I realize that you are a closet tree hugger and don't want to put any lead bullets into the environment! Fess up, Clay! LOL
I've loaded everything from the 125 to 200 grain bullets in my .300. The most pleasant to shoot at little stuff like whitetails is a 150 grain ballistic tip or lookalike backed off to around 30-06 velocities and recoil.
If you don't handload you can get .300's in souped up proprietary rounds from Hornady (Light magnum) and also some reduced loads from another company. ?Remington??
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by on 03/06/2008 5:15 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Let the hangings begin!

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 5:47 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
A point to ponder.

A 180gn Nosler Partition from a 300Win Mag with a muzzle velocity of 3000-3100fps. Let's call the Partition a 60% weight retention bullet.

A 150gn TSX from the same rifle @ 3400fps-3500fps with 90% weight retention.

The two bullets are priced comparably. What'll routinely get you the most for the least?

I've no affiliation with Barnes, their stuff just flat works, predictably, in everthing, every time, always the same, mostly independant of caliber/weight.

Not guessing is the appropriate position from which to laud performance.

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Re: 300 WIN MAG ammo?
by on 03/06/2008 5:47 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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