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2nd Amendment

by , Posted to on 10/18/2008 10:51 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2004
Location: ND
I think we will need to amend,the 2nd Amendment in the near future.It need to be changed so locale Gov. has more input.If we don't do something we are going to loss alot of our gun rights.Because there are far more non-gun owners,than gun owner.So we as gun owners are going have to become more flexible,and allow the locale Gov. of the large Metro areas,place some restriction on ownership of some types of gun.So we can still keep those same types of weapons,here in the rural areas.If we continue with this ,you will have to pry my gun out of my cold dead fingers atitude,we will lose in the end.Fexiblity,and locale control is the key,rather then let some Supreme Court Justice,seal our fate.Just my .02
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by on 10/18/2008 12:46 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/03/2007
Location: ND
It is going to be interesting in the future. I know that neither future president has any intention of messing with our right to own firearms. (Put that in writing) Just wonder how long concealed permits will be good, how long before the Clinton gun ban gets reinstated and how long before registration and licensing of all firearms will be enacted. What gets me is that everyone is willing to give risk all their freedoms for more money. I would like to keep track of all the people saying we are screaming wolf and contact them in four and eight years to maybe tell them where put it. I do think that Obama will backdoor everything. IE raise taxes on ammo, require licensing of individuals at high costs, limit the amount of firearms you can own, maybe the amount of ammo to. I really see Biden getting into this big. This has been his major adjenda for a long time. God forbid they appoint any supreme court justices. Am I worried, damn straight I am. Should I be, only time will tell. If we end up with a complete Democratic government and they don't make everyone rich, fat and happy, they will have a hard time ever getting back the majority. As far as the economy, I am still way better off than 10, 15, 20 or 30 years ago. But I really busted but to get it too. 40 hour weeks usually meant it was Wednsday. Time will tell, but the 2 ammendment is really in jeopordy no matter who is elected.
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by on 10/18/2008 1:13 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
If those in power would leave 'our' rights alone.. then we wouldnt have to 'amend' anything.. We shouldnt be arriving at this state in our country in the first place..... but you get what you 'vote' for..... The 2nd Amendment was put there for a reason... 'for the people'... not so the those in 'power' can 'amend' it to fit their ideological and 'feel good' promises and feelings..... or to 'fulfill' their so called agendas....

If you want to become a 'good' archer become the BOW, if you want to become a 'great' archer become the ARROW....  BYRON FERGUSON

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by on 10/18/2008 4:30 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
gee kennybob, get a clue. You tought your favorite candidtates as if they are the next best thing but they are the ones who threaten our rights, one of our most basic rights at that.
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
 -Thomas Jefferson


The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson




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by on 10/18/2008 5:25 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2004
Location: ND
3x-I'm looking at the future,not tomorrow like you are.There is no way that anyone is going to get that much gun control in 4 years.But 4 more years of Rep.economic could finish off the middle class.The 2nd Amendent needs to be revamped,to give local Gov.more input.So the people in Washington D.C. or New York City can make laws to ban weapon they feel are unsafe,without it effecting us in rural America
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by on 10/18/2008 5:44 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/23/2006
Location: ND
I would rather be economically ruined and have a county and able to pocess a gun than be without a gun and paying homage to allah.
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by on 10/18/2008 5:49 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/19/2008
Location: ND
IMHO, I do not think that they are not going to take away our gun rights immediately, but they will start requiring registration of all ammo bought, how much, how often and what caliber. It does not matte what is bought as long as it pertains to ammo it would have to be registered. They would be able to keep track of the ammo easier than what they would be able to keep track of the guns being sold. Just a thought.
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by on 10/18/2008 6:03 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/15/2006
Location: ND
The worst thing we could do is amend the 2nd Amendment. Boy would that open a can of worms.
And why change it for people in metro areas? Do they have less right to defend themselves than those of us in rural areas?

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by on 10/19/2008 04:59 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/03/2007
Location: ND
LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!

(don't need to say more than that)

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by on 10/19/2008 05:58 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/17/2006
Location: MN
kennybob, I would recommend putting some ice on it. Cause I'm guessing you recently fell and bumped your head
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by on 10/19/2008 06:09 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2004
Location: ND
Hey guys,scuff at me if you want.But the non-gun owners out number us by three to one.The writeing on the wall say,get fexible,or they will take some of our guns(autos and hand gun).
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by on 10/19/2008 06:14 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/03/2007
Location: ND
They may outnumber us 3 to 1 but we're the ones who have guns! ;)

What better interpution of the second amendment to you want than that?

Think about it, tis not a "radical" as it sounds.....

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by on 10/19/2008 06:16 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/03/2007
Location: ND
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by on 10/20/2008 09:53 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/27/2006
Location: ND
There is no need to amend the 2nd Amendment. What we do need are representatives who will follow the Constitution and view the 2nd Amendment as the Founders intended it to be. Meaning that the federal government "shall make no law" concerning it. Yes, the federal government should have ZERO say when it comes to laws pertaining to guns.

If we don't quit this "lesser of two evils" garbage in voting, then we're going to continue down the problematic road we now find ourselves on, and America will be completely unrecognizable from what she was intended to be.

-Justin
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by on 10/20/2008 09:59 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/17/2003
Location: ND
"So the people in Washington D.C. or New York City can make laws to ban weapon they feel are unsafe,without it effecting us in rural America"



Typical liberal view on this....

Its ok as long as it doesn't effect me...

What about the gun owners in NY city??

Have you thought about their rights? Obviously not...





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by on 10/20/2008 10:00 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2002
Location: ND
Some have mentioned gun registration as a start - REALLY BAD IDEA. When you think of gun registration, here is a quote you should remember.

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police will be more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." Adolf Hitler - passing of the German weapons act 1935.
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by on 10/20/2008 10:32 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/19/2005
Location: ND
As long as we treat mental illness as a stigma and keep underfunding it, we will constantly lose more gun rights. Also, add to that the poverty and other problems of the inner cities. It's so easy to pass a law that limits gun use in the name of getting rid of gun violence. Very cheap too. Problem is that it doesn't work. On the other hand, it's quite expensive to start giving people with mental and personal problems the access to mental health services they need in order to stop the Columbine's and other gun violence. And's it's also very expensive to start real change in the poor inner city areas. The real solutions rely in taking care of our own people by attacking the root cause of the problems and not the symptoms.

And if anyone is that naive to think that re-opening this amendment (no matter whom controls the White House) would solve things they need to do their homework and check their meds. Most people in this country would gladly limit this right. And to open an Amendment requires a long drawn out process that would not be the best interest of us gun owners. We are in the minority folks. And if we want to keep our rights as is, we need to do all we can to not only keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but to also rebuild our inner cities and start taking care of the people in our country.
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by on 10/20/2008 10:38 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
kennybob, you obviously don't care about the law abiding citizens who live in metro areas.

Why in the world would you want to hamper their ability to defend themselves in their homes?

To me gun control is a simple issue: punish those that abuse the right to own a gun.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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by on 10/20/2008 11:34 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/23/2008
Location: ND
Yeah the gun ban in D.C. has did wonders since the ban went into effect in early 1977 there is only one year (1985) when D.C.'s murder rate fell below what it was in 1976. But the murder rate also rose dramatically relative to other cities. In the 29 years we have data after the ban, D.C.'s murder rate ranked first or second among the largest 50 cities for 15 years. In another four years, it ranked fourth.
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by on 10/20/2008 11:37 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2004
Location: ND
What I'm saying is to let local Gov.have more control,and not have some Supreme Court Justice,make a broad form decision over something so important.
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by on 10/20/2008 12:15 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/16/2004
Location: ND
ndfishhawg,

Do you have a clue about the treatment of mental illness??? It is has stigma, and always will have. Those afflicted with it would be the first to say so, and those that dont have more BEHAVIORAL issues (Columbine jerkoffs)that would be treated much better without meds...ie: hard work, caring families, swat on the hump for misdeeds, etc.

I still cant make the A to K jump you just made discussing the 2nd Ammendment and you come out with the psych public service announcement???

YES, I am that foolish!

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