.270 vs .308?

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.270 vs .308?

I'm going to purchase a new rifle soon, and I'm just curious what more people shoot/prefer when it comes to these two calibers?  I reload my shells and I plan to use this new rifle for yotes as well as deer.  Thanks for the input.

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Ha, thats like comparing a caddy to a kia ............................ 270

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I have both and prefer the 130 grain for my 270.  Heavier bullets don't group as well in my gun.  When I feel I want a bigger pill, I shoot my 308 with a 165 grain bullet.  If I want to go really nuts, I can reach for the 308 with 180's for an elk or bear trip.  Though the 270 will work for either animal too.  JMHO.  Have fun, whatever caliber you choose.

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270 WITH 110GR V MAX FOR YOTES 130 GR FOR DEER AND BETTER RESALE THAN THE 308 AROUND THESE PARTS

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.270 crap for bullet selection, long action burns more powder i guess if that is the advantage you are looking for that would fit the bill.  If anyone can give me a ballistic reason why the .270 would be better i would love to hear it.  If it wasnt for a few famous writers it might have been the gun that never was.

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.270 Weatherby

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Ya that sounds like a good plan at 54 dollars a box if you dont reload even if you do how do you shoot enough at that price to get good with the rifle.  If you want a mag get the 7mm then you at least have some thing to work with

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I think this is a very common question, I think I have read similar ones dozens of times over the years regarding 30-06, 308, 270's, 280 rem, ect... Long story short, there are slight differences, however all are ballistically similar, so there is no wrong answer, there is no bad choice. Instead, make your decision on what rifle fits and whatever caliber gives you the warm and fuzzy.

 

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Long action or short, long action or short, long action or short?? Thats what I would think about

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with all things being equal is the .308 a more accurate cartridge than the .270

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KurtR Said:

.270 crap for bullet selection, long action burns more powder i guess if that is the advantage you are looking for that would fit the bill.  If anyone can give me a ballistic reason why the .270 would be better i would love to hear it.  If it wasnt for a few famous writers it might have been the gun that never was.

Plenty of bullets to use, ballistic reason is simple flatter shooting.  I use 130 grain nosler ballistic for target and varmit, and barnes tsx for killing everything from antelope to elk and moose.  Who cares about a few extra grains of powder unless you shoot an extreme volume in that cartridge it doesn't matter.  When hunting the flatter shooting rifle leads to shortly lead times.  I have shot both and will take hands down the 270 everytime. Not saying most popular is the best but when i used to sell sporting goods i didn't sell a lot of 308 shells, top five that were sold were 30-06, 270, 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, 243 win. 

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.308 because you can always stuff military ammo in it in the event we have a second civil war.

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3XGutshot Said:
with all things being equal is the .308 a more accurate cartridge than the .270

I would put my money on 308 being more accurate.

 

 

 

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Geothermal Said:

3XGutshot Said:
with all things being equal is the .308 a more accurate cartridge than the .270

I would put my money on 308 being more accurate.

supposedly with the shorter fatter case, but I really dont think the average shooter could ever tell a difference.

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BringingThePAIN Said:
supposedly with the shorter fatter case,

Shorter I believe.  Fatter, not so much with the exception of the neck of course.  The only .473" case head cartrige that could really claim "fatter" is the .284Win.

I run a modest B.C. hunting bullet @3100fps in my 270 and a high B.C. target bullet @2750 in the 308.  The differences to 600yds are negligible.

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You will not go wrong with either, couple things though that do come to mind for me. I have both long action and short action rifles. I like loading the long action in cold weather. As far as accuracy that really is more about the gun,load, and shooter, In regards to which is flatter shooting. You can push a lighter a lighter bullet faster which is why people say the 270 is a flatter shooting rifle.

 However when you compare for example an equal weight bullet the 308 has the advantage of pushing the bullet faster and has an edge.

But as stated before buy what you feel comfortable handling, weight, balance etc.. a gun you like handling and fits well, will be a gun you will shoot better in the long run!

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Horsager Said:

BringingThePAIN Said:
supposedly with the shorter fatter case,

Shorter I believe.  Fatter, not so much with the exception of the neck of course.  The only .473" case head cartrige that could really claim "fatter" is the .284Win.

I run a modest B.C. hunting bullet @3100fps in my 270 and a high B.C. target bullet @2750 in the 308.  The differences to 600yds are negligible.

Thats true, it is just shorter. Was just referring to how shorter, fatter cases in general are supposed to be more accurate. The average shooter could never tell the difference and I dont see how it would make a difference hunting.

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pinto plains Said:

KurtR Said:

.270 crap for bullet selection, long action burns more powder i guess if that is the advantage you are looking for that would fit the bill.  If anyone can give me a ballistic reason why the .270 would be better i would love to hear it.  If it wasnt for a few famous writers it might have been the gun that never was.

Plenty of bullets to use, ballistic reason is simple flatter shooting.  I use 130 grain nosler ballistic for target and varmit, and barnes tsx for killing everything from antelope to elk and moose.  Who cares about a few extra grains of powder unless you shoot an extreme volume in that cartridge it doesn't matter.  When hunting the flatter shooting rifle leads to shortly lead times.  I have shot both and will take hands down the 270 everytime. Not saying most popular is the best but when i used to sell sporting goods i didn't sell a lot of 308 shells, top five that were sold were 30-06, 270, 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, 243 win. 

Thats because the more refined .308 shooters already know that factory hunting loadings are crap and dont bother.  I like how people think flater shooting is some thing that they will actaully notice at the range most hunting is done.  When it will become apparent you can just dial and elevation will take care of its self and when you ge to that point the crap selection of .270 bullets will start to shine.  For just hunting dont know if the critter will tell the differene holes kill  shit plain and simple just put them in the right place.  start getting out to some distance 600 plus that is where the .308 will out shine the .270 all the time.

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A few years ago some shooting scribe ?Jim Carmicheal? decided to test the conventional wisdom that the .270 wasn't as accurate as some other chamberings.  A kind of a 'mythbuster' investigation  for his monthly article. 
So he had custom built several rifles in different chamberings and rigorously  tested them.  It was basically a draw.  Couldn't show that the .270 was any better or worse than anything else, both with over the counter factory loads AND his won handloads. .
Another myth busted! 
Not that it would make any difference as far as hunting, anyway.    The bunch of .270's I've had since 1969 have been as accurate as any other caliber, anyway.   
Nowadays rifles are capable of  better accuracy than 97 2/7 % of the shooters anyway, especally under hunting conditions..

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IMHO fit is way more important than cal..Go pic k up alot of gun and buy the one that feels right.After my grandson ,took my 270 awy from me ,I  started messing with  a6.5X55 AI..Im really impressed,With 1:7.86 fast twist barrel,I'm getting 5 in. groups at 500yd..But I need to hand load each round.So it is not for every one.But has  became nice toy for me.I took a nice 140 class buck this year, at 615 yds off the bench,with the video going,That is one of the great thing about a hunting shack.Kennybob

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