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.223 for deer hunting

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 8:54 PM | Reply #41 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/03/2004
Location: ND
Nope, so load up that 100rd magazine and go nutz!
jamen Said:
there is no clip size restriction for hunting deer??


Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 8:59 PM | Reply #42 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2009
Location: nd
 When I was young there was a five round limit.  M-1 had a 8 round clip so could not use with the 8 round clip. However could use the 94 win which holds more than 5.  Db
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 8:59 PM | Reply #43 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2009
Location: nd

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 9:02 PM | Reply #44 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/10/2004
Location: SD
I used to think anything less that a .270win was not enough, but I grew up and hunted in western WA, where the brush is thick and a deer can disappear in less than 5 seconds.  Here in SD, I have used a .243win and seen it go down as quick as my .270win.  I think with the right bullet and reasonable range, a .223 can do the job, but based on my personal experience in the field, I would not do it with any other bullet than the Barnes tsx.  After trying nearly every other design out there in the field, the only bullet I will use for hunting is the tsx.  As to how many people killed in war, who cares!!!  You don't care if you recover the body in war, you are just taking out the opposition, regardless of dead or injured.  In hunting, it matters how far the deer goes because the farther it goes, the less chance of recovery.  Shot placement in hunting is paremount, in battle a hit is a hit.  I will NEVER reccomend a .223 for deer, but if you insist on doing it use a tsx or get something no less than a .243win.  We have a responsibility to the animals we hunt,  It's not a video game, so if you pull the trigger you have a responsibility that the life you take will not be wasted due to your ignorance or laziness to follow up on the shot EVERY TIME!!  If you are not willing to do so, take up golf!!!!
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 9:42 PM | Reply #45 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/01/2005
Location: ND
I think I've just been talked into using my AR for deer hunting this weekend. And to think, I was going to use my AK47. Thanks for the tips fellas!
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Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 9:50 PM | Reply #46 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/14/2002
Location: ND
willhunt4food Said:
I used to think anything less that a .270win was not enough, but I grew up and hunted in western WA, where the brush is thick and a deer can disappear in less than 5 seconds.  Here in SD, I have used a .243win and seen it go down as quick as my .270win.  I think with the right bullet and reasonable range, a .223 can do the job, but based on my personal experience in the field, I would not do it with any other bullet than the Barnes tsx.  After trying nearly every other design out there in the field, the only bullet I will use for hunting is the tsx.  As to how many people killed in war, who cares!!!  You don't care if you recover the body in war, you are just taking out the opposition, regardless of dead or injured.  In hunting, it matters how far the deer goes because the farther it goes, the less chance of recovery.  Shot placement in hunting is paremount, in battle a hit is a hit.  I will NEVER reccomend a .223 for deer, but if you insist on doing it use a tsx or get something no less than a .243win.  We have a responsibility to the animals we hunt,  It's not a video game, so if you pull the trigger you have a responsibility that the life you take will not be wasted due to your ignorance or laziness to follow up on the shot EVERY TIME!!  If you are not willing to do so, take up golf!!!!
I believe the 5.56 was designed to injur combatants more then to kill.  The thinking was that a wounded man would take more men out of the fight by helping the wounded.   

 


"Any deer is a trophy, as long as its over 160 inches.  So if your not shooting 160 inch deer its not a trophy.  Don't don't fool yourself and say it is cause it isn't."  BT
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 9:55 PM | Reply #47 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
 The real question is can you kill a deer with a Nikon scope and cheap rings/ bases?
Got em!
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/05/2013 9:57 PM | Reply #48 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/08/2011
Location: ND
 
Ski-Dooit Said:
 I've shot probably 20 deer with. 52 grain sierra hollow point.  I can shoot a dime size group with my 223, softball with the stupid 300 win mag.  I will take shot placement over ft/lbs any day.  

I can shot a dime size group with my 223 and a quarter size with my 7mm rem mag 140gr barnes ttsx. My choice for deer is my 7mm but I do agree that a 223 or 22-250 is able to kill deer it is just not my choice. I will take ft/lbs and shot placement combined everytime, I like watching my deer drop on the spot or close to it. agree on everyone's advice barnes, partion or comparable bullets, trigger time and know your limitations she will drop a deer.

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 09:41 AM | Reply #49 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
I have personally pencil holed 3 deer with a 7mm.  No sound or sight of a hit, 2 were double lunged and the second through the heart.  They all went about 100 yards running like they were fine.
Got em!
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 09:57 AM | Reply #50 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND
It will just bounce off em.

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Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 11:22 AM | Reply #51 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/25/2013
Location: nd
Lycanthrope Said:
Nope, so load up that 100rd magazine and go nutz!
jamen Said:
there is no clip size restriction for hunting deer??



I find that a joke but I guess if people want their deer to look like Swiss cheese then more power to them.  30-06 for the win!!! 
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 11:32 AM | Reply #52 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2009
Location: nd
When in basic training on the m16 we were told by the instructor that the base of the 223 was off balance so when the bullet did strke the object it would tumble as in went into the body causing as much damage as the m14 with the 308 bullet.
One instructor also said the bullet did tumble in filght.
Maybe but maybe not.
Also we were told it was better to wound the enemy with the 223 as it would then take another soldier or two to bring him to safety.
My thought was there was then another soldier to fight another day.  And when they are charging your position I do not believe one soldier would stop and take the wounded soldier to safety.  So that was why we use a 223 not a 308.  Besides the lighter weight and fire power.
When i was young i did hunt geese and ducks with my daisy bb gun.  I did shoot at a number at close range however never did bring one home.
 A 22 caliber bullet at 40-50 grains will kill a deer.  And if that is your weapon you feel best about by all means use it.
When i hunted with a rifle i used my 264.  I feel it is a poor deer caliber due to its speed.  It can blow up when striking the bone.  But i would still use it today as i feel good about the rifle.
But for the average deer hunter you need 125-140 grains and a larger caliber than a 22.
db

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 11:51 AM | Reply #53 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/13/2003
Location: ND
 Whether a deer runs a ways before dropping just plain depends on the deer. I've seen a lot of deer shot in the heart run for 50-60 yards before dropping. I've seen deer hit in the heart drop in there tracks. Caliber does not matter.

Everyone should do one thing when they shoot at an animal. Listen. You can usually hear a good hit. Should be a nice thud, followed by another in a bit when he hits the ground! 
 
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 12:15 PM | Reply #54 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/25/2007
Location: ND
i often have trouble hearing the "thud" cause that sound is impeded by the sound of bullet #2, 3, 4 and 5 leaving the end of my barrel.   
HUNTNFISHND Said:
 Whether a deer runs a ways before dropping just plain depends on the deer. I've seen a lot of deer shot in the heart run for 50-60 yards before dropping. I've seen deer hit in the heart drop in there tracks. Caliber does not matter.

Everyone should do one thing when they shoot at an animal. Listen. You can usually hear a good hit. Should be a nice thud, followed by another in a bit when he hits the ground! 


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Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 12:31 PM | Reply #55 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Any weight  TSX would be my 1st choice.  That said I've watched a whole bunch of deer killed with bulk 55gn soft-points from Rem, Win, or Hornady, whichever seemed to be the cheapest when it was time to re-supply.  Deer are not even remotely bulletproof.

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 12:36 PM | Reply #56 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2009
Location: nd

Well they must have had bullet proof only in the old days when i was rifle hunting.  db

Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 2:59 PM | Reply #57 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
I am using my .223 this year to fill a tag, and the girly will use it also.  Was thinking 300 win mag but these posts riled me up enough to do it and grin.
Got em!
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 3:00 PM | Reply #58 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
For now on I am telling everyone that they need at least a 30 cal ultra mag to kill a deer, and a nikon with crap bases and rings. 
Got em!
Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 3:02 PM | Reply #59 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/27/2007
Location: ND
 if i hadnt drawn the coveted buck tag, id b sporting a suppressed ar15 with a 40 round pmag. iron sights

shooting 55grain WOLF hollow points (that never open)
 "I'll show you where the bear sh**s in the woods!" ~ Dad
(I still have no clue what it means.)

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Re: .223 for deer hunting
by on 11/06/2013 3:10 PM | Reply #60 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
does the wolf group? even remotely/
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